PCL off the Runway in TVC--no injuries

[XJohXJ]

The only part I want to highlight is this:

There were no injuries among the 49 passengers (including 3 lap-held infants) and 3 crewmembers

 

[PCL_128]

I noticed you added bold print to certain areas of this news release.


Here's the main part you forgot to highlight:

After landing, the airplane overran the departure end of runway 28, which is 6,501 feet long, with an additional 200 feet of pavement. Initial examination indicates that the airplane exited the paved surface onto a grassy snow- covered field, the nose gear separated from the fuselage, and the airplane came to rest about 100 feet beyond the pavement.

You're an ass. That's all I've got to say about this subject.

 

[Lear70]

You're an ass. That's all I've got to say about this subject.

Agreed.

How's the view from the cheap seats, Beagle? Must be nice to sit all cozy in your house throwing stones when you do NOT have all the information.

Tell me, genius: what was the weather report the F/O (PNF) obtained before they began the approach. Ever heard of weather changing from a crosswind to a slight quartering tailwind?

Do you know what the AWOS said at the EXACT time the aircraft touched down?

If you don't have ALL that data, then you're talking out your a*s... which we all knew you were doing anyway.

Putz.

 

[Dumb Pilot]

Having flown with the captain in question when he was still an F/O and having seen this individual work, I don't have to wait for the NTSB report to understand that bad things can happen to good pilots

 

[Rook]

Having flown with the captain in question when he was still an F/O and having seen this individual work, I don't have to wait for the NTSB report to understand that bad things can happen to good pilots

I hear you DP (Konichiwa)

I still can't believe it. We interviewed together, lived together in MEM, upgraded and became check airman around the same time. We haven't heard 'the rest of the story' so I'll hold off until the NTSB releases its findings.

 

[Lear70]

Ditto. All 3 of us (myself, Rook, and the CA involved) were all in initial class together at PCL.

He was intelligent, professional, and VERY open for learning whatever he could. Flying with him later as his CA he was the very same way.

The F/O's I flew with after he became a Check were always a pleasure. He was one of the few checks that wouldn't sign someone off just because they had reached the hourly minimum which, at PCL, was always a pressure.

I got a c-note that says the NTSB exonerates him of any wrong-doing that is being ASSumed on here. If and when he decides to come here to AirTran, I guarantee he'll have at least a dozen internal letter of recs... mine included.

 

[Regional4life]

Actually, now that you bring it up, I am almost as concerned about XJ than I am about 9E. Xj has lost most of its experienced people and still counting. There are a few still there and I wish them luck, they will have their hands full in the next few years.

Clean house, please!

How can you say XJ has lost MOST of it's experienced people? That's just not true. Have we lost senior people? Yes, we have. Have we lost experienced people? Yup. Have you taken a look at the seniority list that is here? Nope. Dude, the captains that are here have been captains for a damn long time. The FO's that will be upgrading have been sitting FO's for a S*&^pot long time. We have and will continue to have some of the most experienced captains out there to teach the new hire FO's. Are we going to hire low time junior FO's? Yes, unfortunately that's the nature of the beast everywhere right now. But thank goodness we do have the experience here to handle them. The FO's that will be upgrading here have a ton of experience and the new hires won't be upgrading anytime soon.

 

[pilotdiscretion]

Just like the old saying "it takes a village to raise an idiot" it also takes an industry to have an accident. You guys need to expand your view and look at everyone who played a part in this accident. No pilot says "lets run off the end of the runway". They have to be set up so that when they're handicapped they can't break the chain of errors and stand up as the last line of defense.

 

[bluefishbeagle]

You're an ass. That's all I've got to say about this subject.

Lear 70, my opinion of this capt is not totally realated to this incident, lets just say it's personal. If you want more info call me. In the end I'm betting the blame will be spread across many fronts. It's unfortunate that the buck always stops with the crew but since that's the case why risk your career for a second rate regional? By the way I'm taking you up on the bet. I know you're good for it.

 

[e=mc2]

The FO had 2,500 hours? Must be a misprint should of said 250 hours.

Oh, forgot to highlight that!