Pre-9/11 Pay

[fried chickens]

Just wondering what the pay was at the legacy airlines prior to all the pay cuts. Airlinepilotcentral only shows what it is now but what was it in the good ol' days.

 

[Hair-on-Fire]

You're better off not knowing.

 

[Purpledog]

Add about 10% to all FDX scales and that's about it. That was 6 years ago.

 

[airfogey]

It wasn't so much the pay rates as the lack of productivity that hurt the legacies-in the "good ole days" I believe UAL was flying about 34 hours/month actual hard time per pilot versus over 70 hours at Southwest--not saying thats good or bad but Southwest didn't go thru the gut wrenching trauma that the legacies did after 9-11. Fortunately or unfortunately 99% of the flying public is interested in price only.

Airfogey

 

[AdlerDriver]

Just wondering what the pay was at the legacy airlines prior to all the pay cuts. Airlinepilotcentral only shows what it is now but what was it in the good ol' days.

Here's one data point. It might be off a dollar one way or the other because I've tried to forget.
757/767 Right seat 3 year pay: $145/hour - 78 hour guarantee (UAL)

 

[AA717driver]

AA was on the low end of things: MD80 CA $185/hr.

I believe Delta's MD80's were $210/hr.

I don't have a problem being more productive, just don't keep me out 3 more days a month on non-productive trips. That's the typical management answer. TC

 

[800Dog]

Add about 10% to all FDX scales and that's about it. That was 6 years ago.

More like add 30% to FDX scales and you have pre-911 rates at Delta and United.

 

[peter185]

Delta 777 CA topped out at $320/hour, that number doesn't include per diem or any overrides.

 

[248to2.8]

Also the actual dollar amount is just one small thing. A lot of the great work rules that were around have gone away as well. These made a certain payrate usually even better.

 

[rayford steele]

$115 an hour right seat on the Bus at AAAfor year 4. Oh those were the good days.

 

[tomgoodman]

Management's target

Back in the day, conventional wisdom at the majors was that if management were free to set pilot wages, they would impose about a 50% cut. They wouldn't try for more than that, or they wouldn't be able to get quality pilots.
Some think this has now come to pass, or will shortly. Others fear that the downside limit is much lower.

 

[stillflyn]

$123 hr right seat of 737. Fourth year pay.

 

[blzr]

While pilots salaries have taken a big hit, Executive pay and bonus' have gone through the roof.

 

[stillflyn]

$123 hr right seat of 737. Fourth year pay.

Forgot to say it buy that was at UAL.

 

[Going2Baja]

This thread just turned my N. County Times Horoscope 5 Star Day into a 2 Star.....Thanks!!! 18 years in the industry and making $35/hr on Reserve. But I did just get my 15 year ALPA pin in the mail...JOKE!! Oh well - at least I'm driving to work.

Baja.

BTW - As I post this I see CoogeeBeach lurking....I really wish I was sitting on the beach now in OZ sipping a Toohey's Blue!!

 

[OzBushWhacker]

You mean a "New" mate. Thats what we drink these days

 

[SiuDude]

The CA rate at DL was at $130 on the CV-880.

 

[holmie]

110.00 an hour on the DC9 NWA pre 9-11 yr 3. New contract 67.00 hr. Bummer.

 

[FLYLOW22]

US Airways

Paid $212 for the A320 CA yr 12.

$94/hr right seat at yr 3.

Made it worth it to deal with all the crap.


Not any longer.

$124 and $72 now.

Scew that noise.

I won't even mention the E190 rates of "pay".

 

[Green]

FedEx isn´t even close to pre911 DAL and UAl. End of contract pay rates at DAL and UAL for top widebody captians was in excess of $340-hour!!! Add to that unreal work rules and you have a great career. I heard AMR management had offered the DAL contract but the pilots were holding out for more. Then 9-11 hit. None of this working 99 hours a month Bs to make a decent living. oh well.....