ExpressJet branded flying

[Skyward]

I do MKE-SLC a couple times a month, and if time allows, I prefer stopping in DEN. I can't handle being on back of an RJ for that long. Thats just me though...

Best of luck to the XJET guys/gals...

I don't believe you, but that's just me.

 

[MDAutry]

you would be surprised how much of a difference catered food and $1.00 beers will make... plus the new seats are extremely comfortable as well as the fact that most people will find the XM radio very relaxing.

 

[MDAutry]

is it just me or the people on here who do not want this to work are ignorant to the fact that regiponal branded flying helps everyone in the end. if it fails all pilots will be affected negatively.

By the way, I am not worried about the success of it. In my mind it is already a success and will continue to be because we will not leave 15% of the passengers at the gate, or be an hour late, or stop at an intermediate airport to pick up gas... you know who you are... also, we offer a great product and know who the boss is, thats the passenger for you guys who don't know.

 

[BluDevAv8r]

By the way, I am not worried about the success of it. In my mind it is already a success and will continue to be because we will not leave 15% of the passengers at the gate, or be an hour late, or stop at an intermediate airport to pick up gas... you know who you are... also, we offer a great product and know who the boss is, thats the passenger for you guys who don't know.

Uh...that is a dangerous attitude to have in my opinion. You DO realize that XJT has been an hour late before, has weight restricted flights before, and has stopped to get gas halfway there before, right? I've done all 3 in my time at XJT.

-Neal

 

[CA1900]

The seat is roughly the same despite the size of the fuselage. And businesspeople typically prefer the shortest travel time since "time is money." But hey, if someone wants to connect in in Dallas for 90 minutes only to have to sit in a middle seat on both segments of that big 737, so be it. I'll take the single seat on the left side of the RJ any day of the week over a middle seat on a 737...

1/3 of the seats on an all-coach 737 are middle seats, but more than 2/3 of the seats on an ERJ are window seats, and they're horrible seats for me, because I can't put my feet straight down. On a 45-minute flight, I can deal with it. On a 3+ hour flight, I'm in agony. The only way I'd be able to stand a flight that long would be if I had the aisle seat on the right.

So yeah, I'm with MarineGrunt: On a long-haul, I really would prefer a middle seat and a stopover to a longer-than-2-hour RJ flight.

I wish you guys the best; truly I do. But don't try to pretend an RJ is more comfortable than a larger plane. It isn't. (Although the discovery of the secret-armrest-release button has made it a little more tolerable.)

 

[MDAutry]

That may be true from previous work and maybe I am nieve... but all of the above should be taken care of...

 

[BluDevAv8r]

1/3 of the seats on an all-coach 737 are middle seats, but more than 2/3 of the seats on an ERJ are window seats, and they're horrible seats for me, because I can't put my feet straight down. On a 45-minute flight, I can deal with it. On a 3+ hour flight, I'm in agony. The only way I'd be able to stand a flight that long would be if I had the aisle seat on the right.

So yeah, I'm with MarineGrunt: On a long-haul, I really would prefer a middle seat and a stopover to a longer-than-2-hour RJ flight.

I wish you guys the best; truly I do. But don't try to pretend an RJ is more comfortable than a larger plane. It isn't. (Although the discovery of the secret-armrest-release button has made it a little more tolerable.)

I no longer work at XJT but I wish them the best as well. And frankly, I do think that there are times the RJ is more comfortable than the 737. But yes, I agree about the armrest release...its a nice trick.

-Neal

 

[BluDevAv8r]

That may be true from previous work and maybe I am nieve... but all of the above should be taken care of...

I'm not really sure what you mean. XJT still has some flights weight restricted....they still will be late from time to time...and they still will fuel-stop on certain flights westbound in the winter. I think XJT is a better product than CHQ but that doesn't mean XJT is perfect, like you suggest they are.

-Neal

 

[Captain Overs]

Not showing our ignorance, just pointing what everyone else sees that is not drinking the Xjet Kool-aid.

No you are not head to head with a high cost major. Your mngt team chose to go head to head on some SWA markets. That appears to be even worse.

Whoever posted that pax would rather sit in an RJ than a bus or 737, you are crazy. RJ's suck to ride in period.

No one posted that pax would rather sit in an RJ than a bus or 737 as you say. It came from a passenger who flew on Expressjet during one of their first flights. It was an interview with a local television station in Tucson that covered the flights.

You're still showing ignorance, or avoiding my question, of showing just how Expressjet is like Indy Air.

 

[MDAutry]

I think I may have been misunderstood... I do not believe xjt is perfect; however, I believe in the product, personally do everything to help the company, and am proud of the branded flying. Also, this is a discussion of ExpressJet branded flying and not the contractual flying... Many people take that attitude with XJT pilots and I can see where they are coming from, but we are just happy with our company and work very hard to make it great. CHQ is a great company as well and I would have been honored to work for them, but the management at XJT is superior in my opinion.

 

[Ponchus pilot]

I really do hope that it works out for XJT, and I am sure their product is great, but how many customers will pay more for a better product when it comes to air travel? If XJT is $300 to go from San Diego to Kansas City, and AA is 299 to go SAN-DFW-MCI then who will get the customer? I think the general public only cares about price.

If you check the prices you will see that the prices are comparable and its non-stop.

 

[pianoman]

I don't know why so many of you bottom-feeders are so excited about XJT tanking. I think they have as good a chance as any company (probably better) and y'all should be hoping they make it, since their contract is leading the pack in regionals. XJT prospering helps everyone.

Having worked there, the toughest part of deciding to leave was the fact that they had such a resonsible and ethical management group.

BTW I would much rather be sitting in an A seat on an RJ reading a book than be squished in the middle on a narrow body even if I can watch "Casino Royale" for the 3rd time this month while enjoying a plastic cheeseburger.

 

[bailey3083]

I think I may have been misunderstood... I do not believe xjt is perfect; however, I believe in the product, personally do everything to help the company, and am proud of the branded flying. Also, this is a discussion of ExpressJet branded flying and not the contractual flying... Many people take that attitude with XJT pilots and I can see where they are coming from, but we are just happy with our company and work very hard to make it great. CHQ is a great company as well and I would have been honored to work for them, but the management at XJT is superior in my opinion.

You sound just like we did at Indy right up to the last day. I know everyone thinks we were fools to do what we did but I would not have changed one thing at all. The contract UAL wanted us to sign wasnt even worth wiping your ass with. I hated we went out of business but those 18 months were the best time I have ever had flying a plane.
I really do hope that you guys change everyones mind and do make it all work with Jungle Jets.

 

[MJG]

Just a random comment from a customer who flew on XJT branded this past week. This is taken from an business traveler's blog site:

"Loved the trip the on time performance is great you can set your watch to this airline. The staff is all excellent! Small plane but they have A LOT of perks that definitely outweigh it! I cant wait to do it again!!! XM radio, REAL Food, Smiling personnel!!"

Time will tell...........

 

[lowery21]

That's great to hear.

 

[MINIME]

If the seats are more comfortable than they traditionally have been, with the price being right, plus I save time for my multi-million dollar deal, then I would gladly fly on anything that provides it.

Business people especially, don't mind the size of the aircraft. They are more discriminating to the comforts and conviniences that that particular carrier can provide. If size of equipment was really an overriding issue, corporate departments would not exist.

People care about price, schedule, immidiate surrounding comforts, and service. A citation can provide all these things when it's done right.

 

[Non Union]

Business people especially, don't mind the size of the aircraft. They are more discriminating to the comforts and conviniences that that particular carrier can provide. If size of equipment was really an overriding issue, corporate departments would not exist.

People care about price, schedule, immidiate surrounding comforts, and service. A citation can provide all these things when it's done right.

Wow, you couldn't be more wrong.

Business people care about quality, on-time and frequent flyer miles. Period.

You think they care about saving a hundred bucks to do a "multi-million dollar" deal.

Sorry, but your logic is way off here.

 

[captjim]

Wow, you couldn't be more wrong.

Business people care about quality, on-time and frequent flyer miles. Period.

You think they care about saving a hundred bucks to do a "multi-million dollar" deal.

Sorry, but your logic is way off here.

Who's to say you logic isn't way off?

 

[ERJDRVR]

Just a random comment from a customer who flew on XJT branded this past week. This is taken from an business traveler's blog site:

"Loved the trip the on time performance is great you can set your watch to this airline. The staff is all excellent! Small plane but they have A LOT of perks that definitely outweigh it! I cant wait to do it again!!! XM radio, REAL Food, Smiling personnel!!"

Time will tell...........

The bad thing about flying journalists to and fro is that when something goes wrong, they tend to amuse themselves by taking notes. Sadly, JetBlue does not yet have a policy prohibiting pens and paper from their flights. From the Boston Herald:

A passenger, talking loudly into his cellphone, says, "I went out of my way to fly JetBlue," he said, "and instead I'm on some Express Jet. It's a bait and switch."
Yes, the oldest of sales schemes. Instead of the expansive Airbus 320 with legroom and TVs, JetBlue put its Dulles-to-Logan passengers on a Continental Express Jet, a flying partner. The switcheroo would have been a minor irritation given the brevity of the flight had the Express Jet not run low on fuel circling over Boston, forcing it to land at T.F. Green.


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The obvious solution to this problem is to ban journalism so these note-takers can no longer afford to fly. —MEGHANN MARCO

 

[BluDevAv8r]

Wow, you couldn't be more wrong.

Business people care about quality, on-time and frequent flyer miles. Period.

You think they care about saving a hundred bucks to do a "multi-million dollar" deal.

Sorry, but your logic is way off here.

Well if they could save 2 hours or more on travel time they might....time is money.