Pinnacle upgrade less than ONE year.

[DoinTime]

The short answer? You only get paid more if you actually fly more. Didn't used to be that way, but the Association backed down from a grievance I filed a long time ago about that where they USED to credit daily and if you flew over on any one day, you immediately got paid more than guarantee. They stopped doing that about 2 years ago.

This type of pay treatment has never been part of our contract. Ever.

 

[Lear70]

This type of pay treatment has never been part of our contract. Ever.

I got paid that way for 3 years, then it suddenly went away,,, I have pay stubs and SBS records to prove it.

SE agreed with the basis of the grievance, but was overruled by SR and WG and they attempted to withdraw the grievance.

I refused, and threatened to pursue it on my own per ALPA bylaws. Rather than have a lone wolf forcing my own arbitration schedule over their own agenda, they left the 3 grievances on that particular pay issue pending.

They're still on the list of the outstanding grievances I've personally filed, including 2 that were MEC grievances. Waiting to see how they're going to be dealt with at contract time - all outstanding grievances have to be settled and I'm not allowing them to be dropped - one of my rights per the ALPA bylaws and the RLA.

 

[bertengineer]

One thing you may be forgetting when stating that a person with a seniority number of 1017 getting an upgrade slot is this: How many hours did they have when they came here? Obviously it is now over three thousand total with two thousand multi...to get the award, however, the dude does not have a class date! He got the award, but there is no slot for him in the last class for April. There are two classes in April, 16 in each. How do I know? I have a class date. By the way..1.5 years at 9E, and Yes I left a 135 Job to come here.

 

[F16fixer]

Life isn't all that bad at PNCL. I am on reserve and I only flew 10-11 days in FEB. I sit at home on reserve and life is good. I don't make much money, but I don't do much work!

Most of the captains are really cool. There were a few in DTW that I wasn't 100% in love with their tone, but the rest have been great.

 

[Quack]

Anyone who is upgrading in three years or less doesn't have a whole lot to bitch about. Go other places and you might find yourself staring down the barrel of a 6 to 8 yr. upgrade time. you've earned the right. until then...

 

[bertengineer]

Anyone who is upgrading in three years or less doesn't have a whole lot to bitch about. Go other places and you might find yourself staring down the barrel of a 6 to 8 yr. upgrade time. you've earned the right. until then...

Who's bitching now?

 

[SELCAL checks]

7-04 Revised Final Vacancy has 2 newhires going to the left seat.

Yup, street captains. Here we go again.

 

[bertengineer]

7-04 Revised Final Vacancy has 2 newhires going to the left seat.

Yup, street captains. Here we go again.

I do not see them with a class date yet! Earlier I stated 16 per class...well it is 14 per class so there are more that do not have class dates.....

This is updated......They are right. 2 street capt. Seniotiry is in the 12XX
Good for them!

 

[Rook]

I do not see them with a class date yet! Earlier I stated 16 per class...well it is 14 per class so there are more that do not have class dates.....

This is updated......They are right. 2 street capt. Seniotiry is in the 12XX
Good for them!

Wow! Well at least J.M. will finally get some seniority.:beer:

 

[Lear70]

7-04 Revised Final Vacancy has 2 newhires going to the left seat.

Yup, street captains. Here we go again.

And so it starts. 4-6 months of street CA hiring, all of them sitting reserve 3-4 years.

Enjoy.

 

[XJohXJ]

Which base were they awarded?

 

[Tram]

With the street captain hirings, will new hires who get the required time, still upgrade? I would think so, and that is what causes the street captain to sit on reserve all the time?

 

[flyf15]

With the street captain hirings, will new hires who get the required time, still upgrade? I would think so, and that is what causes the street captain to sit on reserve all the time?

FOs on the list keep upgrading as they get the required time for upgrade. Every one that does goes above the street CA on the CA list for a very long time... in Pinnacle's case, 2-3 years. This means that all the new CAs from the FO list are senior to the street CAs. Street CAs stay at the bottom of the CA senority list until their senority "catches up" with that of the mainstream FOs upgrading. Since they're at the bottom of the list, they get reserve.

 

[bertengineer]

And so it starts. 4-6 months of street CA hiring, all of them sitting reserve 3-4 years.

Enjoy.

Hey Rich...I will take 3-4 year res at Capt pay. Trying to feed a family on FO pay sucks! And no...the airline nor the Marine Corps did not issue me a family so I put myself into that situation!

 

[ataopsdave]

I do not see them with a class date yet! Earlier I stated 16 per class...well it is 14 per class so there are more that do not have class dates.....

This is updated......They are right. 2 street capt. Seniotiry is in the 12XX
Good for them!

One of them is a pos...he used to be a fo here and left to go to that alter ego in STL and is now back as a street captain...look at his id number...you will know which one I am talking about