ORD F-Gates

[Illinois]

It is too cold to be walking outside to an airplane. How long will United make people do this?

 

[AWACoff]

Well, when I was using the F-gates in the late 90's, it wasn't unusual for people to trip all fall down the stairs to the ramp. All of the deicing fluid would coat the stairs and then.....whoops. I don't believe they will do anything about people walking outside since they don't care about people falling down very steep and slick stairs.

 

[WalterSobchak]

Good lord...I made the F gate walk the other morning at 0545L and am fairly certain my nose hairs were frozen and breaking off...

I shouldn't gripe...I've been needing to trim them anyway.

 

[SSDD]

I've heard that they're waiting for US/AWA to take over UA, and then Air Wisconsin will loan them another $50 million to enclose the F GAtes.

 

[DiverDriver]

F Gates = Fall of Saigon re-enactment. -Boyd


F1C has got to be the worst walk.

 

[MarineGrunt]

Tear em down and start over. Unfortunately, that will never happen, because there would be no place to put the bazillion planes that park there. The passenger waiting areas are WAY too small too.

 

[Rez O. Lewshun]

A great reason to use Eagle across the ramp at G!!

 

[skiandsurf]

It is too cold to be walking outside to an airplane. How long will United make people do this?

United is waiting for the Global Warming to heat things up.

Also, United doesnt care about the passenger. They can make them freeze at the F gates. They can have them sit in the penalty box. The pax will miss their connection, and United DOESNT care. The pax WILL return for those FF miles.

 

[HelloNewman]

Who cares its really not that hard to walk to an airplane, have we really become that lazy as a society? I agree the slipping on de-ice fluid needs to be worked on but for christ sakes we are already a lazy society. How hard is it really to walk to an airplane. The de-ice fluid issue needs to be dealt with but other than that most of the year it is not winter time, quit being lazy and walk, it helps with obesity.

 

[SiuDude]

What does this thread have to do with ASA?

 

[BoilerUP]

Who cares its really not that hard to walk to an airplane, have we really become that lazy as a society? I agree the slipping on de-ice fluid needs to be worked on but for christ sakes we are already a lazy society. How hard is it really to walk to an airplane. The de-ice fluid issue needs to be dealt with but other than that most of the year it is not winter time, quit being lazy and walk, it helps with obesity.

Its not about walking to the airplane dumbass, its the substandard service compared to Eagle (all on jetways) across the alley and the HUGE safety/liability issue!

 

[crashpad]

Its not about walking to the airplane dumbass, its the substandard service compared to Eagle (all on jetways) across the alley and the HUGE safety/liability issue!

ALL FEEDER SERVICE IS 'SUB-STANDARD'.....INCLUDING EAGLETS!!!

ALL FEEDERS SHOULD BE SEGREGATED FROM MAINLINE, GIVEN THEIR OWN TERMINAL, RUNWAY AND PARKING AREA SO THE REST OF THE CIVILIZED INDUSTRY CAN CONTINUE PROVIDING QUALITY SERVICE TO DESERVING CUSTOMERS.

IT IS AWESOME YOU GUYS FEEL FOR THE PASSENGERS. YOU WILL BE THE FUTURE FOR REAL AIRLINE PILOTS AND EVERYONE WILL BENEFIT.

 

[John Pennekamp]

ALL FEEDER SERVICE IS 'SUB-STANDARD'.....INCLUDING EAGLETS!!!

ALL FEEDERS SHOULD BE SEGREGATED FROM MAINLINE, GIVEN THEIR OWN TERMINAL, RUNWAY AND PARKING AREA SO THE REST OF THE CIVILIZED INDUSTRY CAN CONTINUE PROVIDING QUALITY SERVICE TO DESERVING CUSTOMERS.

IT IS AWESOME YOU GUYS FEEL FOR THE PASSENGERS. YOU WILL BE THE FUTURE FOR REAL AIRLINE PILOTS AND EVERYONE WILL BENEFIT.

Flamebait.

 

[SennaP1]

The thing

Here's the Thing....United doesn't care.

 

[HelloNewman]

The biggest problem is there are too many airplanes and not enough gate space. We are packed in like sardines, that being said as long as there are appropriate guides and no large changes in engine power on the ramp I don't see the problem. Unfortunately I don't think united is going to cut flights just so everyone has a jetway.

 

[Yuppyguppy]

Hell you guys took some of our C gates...isn't that enough or do you want it all...have the B gates as well....

 

[skiandsurf]

Hell you guys took some of our C gates...isn't that enough or do you want it all...have the B gates as well....

Did they take the gates, or did you give them away?

 

[GearBayOverheat]

The biggest problem is there are too many airplanes and not enough gate space. We are packed in like sardines, that being said as long as there are appropriate guides and no large changes in engine power on the ramp I don't see the problem. Unfortunately I don't think united is going to cut flights just so everyone has a jetway.

apparently you aren't an FO and don't have to worry if you blow anything over... ever parked way up in the alley there....??? putz....

 

[homerjdispatch]

What does this thread have to do with ASA?

Now thats funny!

 

[HelloNewman]

apparently you aren't an FO and don't have to worry if you blow anything over... ever parked way up in the alley there....??? putz....

Yes it is tricky coming in doing a sharp turn then straightening out again. The parking is funky to say the least especially in the F1 gate area. The point is it is done safely almost every day without blowing anything over. The safety margin is there. You always have to be careful and on your toes in chicago. I think this thread is making a big deal out of nothing.

 

[CMI]

ALL FEEDER SERVICE IS 'SUB-STANDARD'.....INCLUDING EAGLETS!!!

ALL FEEDERS SHOULD BE SEGREGATED FROM MAINLINE, GIVEN THEIR OWN TERMINAL, RUNWAY AND PARKING AREA SO THE REST OF THE CIVILIZED INDUSTRY CAN CONTINUE PROVIDING QUALITY SERVICE TO DESERVING CUSTOMERS.

IT IS AWESOME YOU GUYS FEEL FOR THE PASSENGERS. YOU WILL BE THE FUTURE FOR REAL AIRLINE PILOTS AND EVERYONE WILL BENEFIT.

Amen brother!

 

[Foxcow]

Well the the good news is that my latest pair of shoes seem to be glycol resistant when wading through lake type 1. I hate going into ORD.

 

[flyby]

A great reason to use Eagle across the ramp at G!!

I second the motion. All jetbridges... even if they aren't heated.

Must be like being at an airshow as a passenger at the end of F... triple-7's taxiing by, the smell of jet fuel in the air and a slurry of salt and glycol on your feet. I wonder how they process the aisle-chair passengers.

 

[CheeseDick]

Minus twenty on the windchill, let's board all passengers and all rows and see how big of a line we get.

People fall all the time...However, United has determined that it's cheaper to be sued and settle with everyone than to redo the F gates into something passenger friendly

 

[skiandsurf]

People fall all the time...However, United has determined that it's cheaper to be sued and settle with everyone than to redo the F gates into something passenger friendly

Was talking to a UAL Chief Pilot once regarding lost bags. All airlines have goals of something like 1 lost bag per 1000 bags. I told him the goal should be 0 per 1000 bags with people.....he said it would COST TOO MUCH.

 

[HockleyPilot]

Did they take the gates, or did you give them away?

Game, set, match.........

 

[Morning Wood]

Hell you guys took some of our C gates...isn't that enough or do you want it all...have the B gates as well....

We don't decide where to park, the United gate planners do.

Minus twenty on the windchill, let's board all passengers and all rows and see how big of a line we get.
People fall all the time...However, United has determined that it's cheaper to be sued and settle with everyone than to redo the F gates into something passenger friendly

This is why SkyWest got turboramps in SLC. Not a jetway, but at least people aren't climbing the steps and falling. An elderly woman fell and died getting off a SkyWest plane a couple years ago.

Its not about walking to the airplane dumbass, its the substandard service compared to Eagle (all on jetways) across the alley and the HUGE safety/liability issue!

Exactly. Eagles gates in ORD and the Airlink gates in MSP and DTW are first rate.

F Gates = Fall of Saigon re-enactment. -Boyd
F1C has got to be the worst walk.

Any of the F1 gates are. The one from F1A is a real treat. Dodging the ground equipment, cement barricades and walking past the big garbage dumpster. Then walk up the steps after hiking a 1/2 mile from the airplane. The F-gates are a disgrace. No seating and you can't hear the annoucements.

 

[andym037]

Clearly, United doesn't give a rat's a$$ about their customers... let alone their employees. Let alone the employees of their codeshares. Besides, look at the bottom-feeder carriers that they do business with. My question is why would any respectable, service-conscious carrier do business with the likes of Mesa, GoJet, Trans States, and Colgan? They simple do not care. Furthermore, the mere existence of these gates (if you can even call them that) confirms the fact that not only do they not care one bit about service, but they also don't care about passenger and employee safety either. The situation at the F gates is so bad, its beyond belief. The useless rampers don't even shovel the snow or put down salt half the time, and to top it off, they de-ice at the gates making a bad situation even worse. I myself had a bad fall down the glycol-coated airstairs about 3 weeks ago, and got banged up pretty good (I landed on the pavement). Fortunately I was not seriously injured (I almost wish I was, so that I could have sued these companies), but had I been a person not quite as young and resilient, I would have been badly hurt. I hope somebody falls and sues everyone that tolerated this blatant disregard for passenger and employee safety.

 

[CitationLover]

wow you look at us on G concourse with envy. trust me, service and eagle do not belong in the same sentence. our jetbridges aren't heated and are simply hallways at 10deg. then the passengers wait in said hallway for 20 min to get their red tag bags.

 

[Morning Wood]

wow you look at us on G concourse with envy. trust me, service and eagle do not belong in the same sentence. our jetbridges aren't heated and are simply hallways at 10deg. then the passengers wait in said hallway for 20 min to get their red tag bags.

Most jetbridges aren't heated, are they? But then again, standing in a 10 degree hallway out of the jetblast, glycol, snow, and noise, is better than standing outside waiting for your carry-ons and then have to walk 500 yards thru the same elements to the terminal and climb the slick steps.