Are You An Asa Pilot Or A Ramp Instructor?

[Old Crow]

The only problem I see with this program is that it will be too overwhelming to gain any real knowledge.
We all take for granted the knowledge we have and use on a daily basis. I doubt that these people will even have a college degree, much less any type of technical background. The 121 cockpit is quite overwhelming, even to the newhire pilot, therefore, they will be lost and leave with a sense of "wow that was fun".

 

[Crossky]

When Air Wisconsin took over the ORD ramp from ACA, it sucked, and eventually the company enacted this same policy, except that it was open to any ramp agent, as well as the managers. The one rampie we had in our JS was a normal shmo up to MKE and back. He behaved well, no puke, and we didn't give a dual lesson in all the aviovics and airborne procedures. There were a few pilots we had who didn't care for the program, we don't have it anymore, just had it for a while in ORD.

Really to me a program like this is meant to foster teamwork between the ramp and flightcrew workgroups. Why do rampies hate using headsets? I don't know but it's so nice when they have one that works, you can explain the push delay or any other issue that pops up. AWAC has a pretty tough time still with the PHL rampies but I've found that face to face communication (or attempt anyway) is much more effective in getting things done than running it through the ops freq.

Anyway I sympathize with your position ASAer's, it seems like your relationship with your ACS is not acceptable.

 

[ohplease!]

You went from Coke to corporate to Valujet to NWA to ASA? Your resume seems to be going BACKWARDS, SPORT! :laugh:

I heard there's a story about you on the bathroom wall. Something about you and a male FA on an overnight...

yep. mgmt.-mech.-pilot.

on the bathroom wall? thats mature and professional and its obviously true since its on the bathroom wall...

 

[Puck Mugger]

hmm. 8 yrs. ASA, 4.5 yrs. NWA, 3 yrs. Valujet/Airtran, 2 yrs. corp., 11 yrs. Coca-Cola...been there, done all that you're not as awesome as you think.

Sounds like you have trouble kkeping a job. I guess you split after you piss off the last of you co workers, huh? Move on to greener pastures where no one knows what an annoying big mouth with an over inflated sense of self-importance and fountain of industry wisdom you are?

 

[doug_or]

Now you just hold on one second here...wand toss is an important part of any ramprat's day.

You people who've never worked the ramp make me sick.

You damn kids with your hip-hop music and your internets. Back when I worked the ramp we didn't have any of your magic so-called "wands". We used our own body, like real men. At night they turned on the landing light to see us. I still have no night vision, but it built charecter. Thats the problem with you kids now adays. Yer all a bunch of pampered whiney little bitches. And don't you go correcting my spelling neither, I know what the red squigleys mean, I just don't care. And another thing.....

 

[WalterSobchak]

You dang kids with your hip-hop music and your internets. Back when I worked the ramp we didn't have any of your magic so-called "wands". We used our own body, like real men. At night they turned on the landing light to see us. I still have no night vision, but it built charecter. Thats the problem with you kids now adays. Yer all a bunch of pampered whiney little bitches. And don't you go correcting my spelling neither, I know what the red squigleys mean, I just don't care. And another thing.....

I think we have a winner!

 

[Speedtape]

yep. mgmt.-mech.-pilot.

on the bathroom wall? thats mature and professional and its obviously true since its on the bathroom wall...

Like they say, "Where's there's smoke, there's fire," and "There's a little bit of truth to everything," and (drum roll please), "No Secret remains Sacred forever!"

Actually, it's most appropriate! You joined a select group when your name was placed on the wall! Some organizations have the "Hall of Fame" and the "Ring of Honor!" We have the "Ring around the Toilets!" and you are a worthy member of that infamous group. You should be proud!

 

[John Pennekamp]

yep. mgmt.-mech.-pilot.

on the bathroom wall? thats mature and professional and its obviously true since its on the bathroom wall...

As I said, your career progressions is regressing. And you're right, your story on the bathroom wall doesn't mean it's true and it's not very mature or professional. It just means none of us like you and all think you're a loser. Maybe it's time to move on again. I hear Airtran's looking for people. Unless you're the one who loaded those O2 generators next to the tires...

 

[homerjdispatch]

As I said, your career progressions is regressing. And you're right, your story on the bathroom wall doesn't mean it's true and it's not very mature or professional. It just means none of us like you and all think you're a loser. Maybe it's time to move on again. I hear Airtran's looking for people. Unless you're the one who loaded those O2 generators next to the tires...

Glad to see you agree that Management and Mechanics are above pilots. Its about time you see the light. (sarcasm intended, dont get your panties in a wad!)

 

[John Pennekamp]

Glad to see you agree that Management and Mechanics are above pilots. Its about time you see the light. (sarcasm intended, dont get your panties in a wad!)

Was there ever any doubt? What I left out is that the janitors are above the dispatchers (don't get your panties in a wad!).