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[blueridge71]

Do reserves have hard days off or floaters?

What is the minimum days off?

Thanks, General.

 

[canyonblue]

We have a 3 day trip to Tokyo from ATL that is worth 28 hours.
Bye Bye--General Lee

And what percentage of pilots at Delta get those? We have some 3 days at SWA that are worth 21 hours, that a larger percentage of our pilot group can fly.

We have a 6 day trip worth 42 hours that goes to Moscow twice(with an ATL layover in between). We have multiple 6 day trips from JFK to Frankfurt, then to CVG, then back to FRA, and back to JFK for more than 30 hours.(same for some Rome trips, and Amsterdam, etc....)

6 days, NO WAY! I see my kids off to school on a Monday and usually see them to bed on Wednesday.

We also go to Rio, Buenos Aires, and Santiago from ATL, with 30 hour layovers. It is Summertime down there, and nice to sight see. We have variety. We also have PLENTY of day trips or turns to the Caribbean and Latin America--so we could be home with our families EVERY NIGHT (I do St. Thomas a lot).

I'll do a FLL or a TPA or even a SAN, and I still enjoy some sun. 30 hrs in a hotel, I couldn't take it. I'd rather spend that time with the family. We also have day trips, but those only work if you live in base, otherwise why spend the night in a crashpad?

You have the 123 rule, and more job security. Great. If I have to be away for 3 or 4 days, why not do it in a city I want to see? You continue having fun on your very productive 4 days.....Good for you.

I really could care less about the 123, I don't drink that often to care. I have seen enough of cities in my life including Europe and Asia. At this point in my life I just want to spend the least amount of time away from my family, and the productive 3 days at SWA are by far the best fit for me.

Were you one of those fat bulleys back in elementary school? Did you lose your marbles?

Yes, I lost my marbles when I didn't apply to Southwest earlier.

Not trying to jump your crap, but why do you always rip on guys who layover in the USA? I like it here just fine.

 

[General Lee]

And what percentage of pilots at Delta get those? We have some 3 days at SWA that are worth 21 hours, that a larger percentage of our pilot group can fly.



6 days, NO WAY! I see my kids off to school on a Monday and usually see them to bed on Wednesday.



I'll do a FLL or a TPA or even a SAN, and I still enjoy some sun. 30 hrs in a hotel, I couldn't take it. I'd rather spend that time with the family. We also have day trips, but those only work if you live in base, otherwise why spend the night in a crashpad?



I really could care less about the 123, I don't drink that often to care. I have seen enough of cities in my life including Europe and Asia. At this point in my life I just want to spend the least amount of time away from my family, and the productive 3 days at SWA are by far the best fit for me.



Yes, I lost my marbles when I didn't apply to Southwest earlier.

Not trying to jump your crap, but why do you always rip on guys who layover in the USA? I like it here just fine.

We have a lot of INTL pilots. We have over 3000 757/767 pilots total, and half are INTL, and they get to manipulate their schedules because 30/7 doesn't apply. Long day turns are fairly senior, but there are plenty. Most are to the Carribbean or Latin America (San Juan, St Thomas, Liberia, Guatemala City, San Salvador, Managua) with some domestic too--Phoenix, Jackson Hole, Vail, Steamboat, etc).

As far as 6 day trips, you usually get 6 or more off after that, or you could line up two 6 day trips and then get 18 off. It is up to you and your seniority. Variety is a good thing. It is great you can't leave your kids for 6 days, that is wonderful.

30 hours in a hotel is not really in the hotel. If you are in the right city, you might sleep a bit when you get there, and then go out, and actually have fun with some of the crew. RIO also has a great nightlife, which could get you in trouble with your wife. The women there are absolutely gorgious, and they target Americans. It is tough to get one of those trips for some reason .

As far as domestic layovers, I think some could be great. I was just pointing out that if you have to be gone for 3 or 4 days, wouldn't you want to go somewhere that you actually want to go? SAN is nice, and so is SFO. I enjoyed those immensely. But, the INTL ones are also interesting and can be exotic. We just started a 767ER run that goes ATL--Dakar, Senegal (24 hours), then onto Johannesburg (24 hours), back to Dakar (another 24 hours), and back to ATL. Yes, it required a yellow fever shot, (all our INTL pilots got one in the crew lounge for free) but that adds to the adventure. The hotels at those destinations have cheap ($50) day tours that are supposedly very interesting. And the next week you could go to Buenos Aires or Munich. Variety can be good.

And, I am not trying to rip on you too much. Enjoy your trips and I will enjoy mine. Take care.


Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[General Lee]

Do reserves have hard days off or floaters?

What is the minimum days off?

Thanks, General.

Hard days off if you don't answer your phone on those days. I guess they could tag you at the end of a trip if they really needed you. The minimum days off are 11 on odd months, 12 on even. Some categories have only 8-10 reserves, so a line is not too far off depending on the base. Atleast 1 year is expected if you stay on one aircraft.


Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[NAAPilot]

Hey General,
How's Accra working out for you guys? Not a bad trip either. Does that flight continue on to Mumbai?

 

[landlover]

you guys ain't seen nothing!!! i get to do 12 day trips to exotic locations such as ottumwa iowa, laredo texas, pontiac MI, sandusky ohio, jackson mississippi, waterloo iowa, statesville NC, everyones favorite, willow run in ypsilanti MI. cant forget gwinner ND (where jet a isn't sold). 5000x75 in a falcon-20 at night. ohh the stuff that dreams are made of i tell you! a few other gems, rocester ny, jamestown ny, grand island nebraska. even better yet i get to push freight to the back of the dassault fanjet! you guys need some work rules like i have.

 

[michael707767]

Do reserves have hard days off or floaters?

What is the minimum days off?

min days off are 12 in a 30 day bid period and 13 in a 31 day bid period. The reserves lines are published with one day less than the min, and then scheduling gets to decide where to put your last day off.

All in all, I don't think reserve is that bad. I sit right on the edge....I get a line about half the time, get reserve the other half. Frankly, when I look back at my schedule I end up with better months when I am on reserve.

 

[PHXFLYR]

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[Helos2Galaxy]

I am sure wakeing up in Venice, Italy with a 50% pay cut is alot of fun. go for it. It's all yours.

Complain all u want; I' take my $105/ hour to wake up in Venice (or Nice, Madrid, Barcelona, the UK Paris, etc, etc).

 

[Spooky 2]

We have a lot of INTL pilots. We have over 3000 757/767 pilots total, and half are INTL, and they get to manipulate their schedules because 30/7 doesn't apply. Long day turns are fairly senior, but there are plenty. Most are to the Carribbean or Latin America (San Juan, St Thomas, Liberia, Guatemala City, San Salvador, Managua) with some domestic too--Phoenix, Jackson Hole, Vail, Steamboat, etc).

As far as 6 day trips, you usually get 6 or more off after that, or you could line up two 6 day trips and then get 18 off. It is up to you and your seniority. Variety is a good thing. It is great you can't leave your kids for 6 days, that is wonderful.

30 hours in a hotel is not really in the hotel. If you are in the right city, you might sleep a bit when you get there, and then go out, and actually have fun with some of the crew. RIO also has a great nightlife, which could get you in trouble with your wife. The women there are absolutely gorgious, and they target Americans. It is tough to get one of those trips for some reason .

As far as domestic layovers, I think some could be great. I was just pointing out that if you have to be gone for 3 or 4 days, wouldn't you want to go somewhere that you actually want to go? SAN is nice, and so is SFO. I enjoyed those immensely. But, the INTL ones are also interesting and can be exotic. We just started a 767ER run that goes ATL--Dakar, Senegal (24 hours), then onto Johannesburg (24 hours), back to Dakar (another 24 hours), and back to ATL. Yes, it required a yellow fever shot, (all our INTL pilots got one in the crew lounge for free) but that adds to the adventure. The hotels at those destinations have cheap ($50) day tours that are supposedly very interesting. And the next week you could go to Buenos Aires or Munich. Variety can be good.

And, I am not trying to rip on you too much. Enjoy your trips and I will enjoy mine. Take care.


Bye Bye--General Lee

General, are you flying international these days, or for that matter have you ever flown international