T-38C Near Miss Video

[Hagar17]

The IP I spoke to said it was a Beech Baron. He showed me several still frames from the video, which they used to track down the N-number and contact the pilot. He didn't say what, if any, disciplinary action was taken. I don't think the Baron pilot was even aware of the incident; although the T-38 wasn't exactly in a blind spot, a couple of seconds of looking the other way was probably enough to miss the whole show.

Where did they get the video? Do UPT T-38's have a "gun camera?"

 

[Fury220]

Where did they get the video? Do UPT T-38's have a "gun camera?"

T-38C's have a VTR system that can be set to record either the HUD, the MFD in either cockpit, or a combination of both.

 

[CobraKai]

Radio call is from a KRND t-6 (JPATS 86).

BARON is flying typical civi IFR...


I Follow Roads except at 500, AGL

Half of Texas in that area is low level routes belonging to krnd, kdlf, kskf, kdys, knfw, and ksps

Was number 2 on VR-186 at 500' once and had a Twin Air fly below us south to north not squawking...lead had us pop-up and shoot a call off to Flight Service. They called Customs...customs launches citation with big nose. We go on with simulated drop.

 

[414Flyer]

I will admit to once once on a solo flight from an airport next to SPS, I was took the Traumahawk over to SPS to get some landing at a towered airport and then on the way back the whole 7 miles west, I went a little higher than I should have, into the altitude meant for the T-38s. As soon as I saw that, I quickly look around and see a 38 at my 7, really really close and fast.

I am glad I didnt end up a statistic.

 

[SIG600]

And there it is, 48 hours 7 minutes before someone had to turn this into a mil vs civil aviation matter. Nice work 414...

 

[414Flyer]

I dont see how I was turning it into a mil vs civ. Just stating how I when I was a solo student civilian pilot, my inattention caused a similiar situation with a T-38

 

[airbrush]

It's a matter of everyone staying vigilant and informed. When I was a student pilot back in the mid 70s, my instructor had shown me on the sectional where a low-level military route was located near my home town. The route made a dogleg at the tip of a lake about 15 miles north of my high school. I used to occasionally get time off from school to do some of my solo cross countries (principal liked me, and he had flown B-29s), and I sometimes flew over the school just to "show off".
One day while I was in the school parking lot, three ANG A-7s came scorching right overhead at less than 500ft, pulling hard in 90 degree bank turns. I'd never seen that before or after, so I guess its possible that they missed the turn by a few seconds. For me it was a wake up call to keep my eyes open, because anyone can make a mistake and it can all be over in an instant.
Years later, while doing touch-and-goes, a helicopter went barreling straight through the traffic pattern, missing me by maybe a couple hundred feet horizontally. I never saw him, only finding out when I landed from an instructor who saw him pass behind me. Even if you're exactly where you are supposed to be, doing everything right, you can still end up in a smoking hole.

 

[scoreboard]

Phhht,,, Thats not a close call..... I'll show you a close call....

 

[McGillicutty]

I wouldn't have been surprised if someone said that was a pred in the near miss video.

 

[Vandal]

I wouldn't have been surprised if someone said that was a pred in the near miss video.

The ground was too green for that...

 

[DarinFred]

I know the dude that was in the backseat. It was WAY closer than 80 feet...believe me. Everyone was legal in this case. The -38 was in the MTR on altitude and the Baron was climbing out of an airport outside the route. The Baron was not squawking or at least the TCAS didn't show it in the cockpit. The funny thing is that the aircraft crossed in front of #2 in the formation and the 2 PIT IPs in #2 said nothing. Amazing footage.

 

[SIG600]

Some people just don't get that everyone can be totally legal, and dookie can still go wrong. This is a perfect case of where that ALMOST happened.