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HelloNewman said:
No one turns down growth in this buisness.
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Mesa and Freedom
TSA and GoJets
Chaniqua and Republic
AWAC and united

These airlines all turned down growth recently due to things such as major pay cuts and promises of alter ego carriers. Wow...all are union too!!!

All of those that voted yes for the 40/70/90 one rate, myself included, should be embarrassed at how low we took the bar in the fight for more growth. The bar will continue to be lowered and those that can't see the forest for the trees, will be sorrily dissapointed in the future.

Mookie
 
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Why bother with the facts with that tool? The guy has no concept of the outside world except for what he can see in his rose colored fog induced by that sweet, sweet Kool Aid.
 
Mookie said:
CAtIIIc

Nice job, homeboi. How is the back holding up? Now if we could all just get a day off to get the usual suspects to play together somewhere. Give me a holla next time you are in la.

I don't blame the guy, he's ignorant. not stupid, but ignorant about what is going on in the rest of the industry. Many don't have the perspective that the other side may have, and I guarantee you very very few have ever received the dreaded furlough notice. Hell, no one else but us in IAH had ever had a base close down (pdx downsized...).

Deerkiller,

You are right...never thought you'd hear that from me, huh??? Until there is some sort of horrible thing happen over there, the guys who get their 8month upgrades are going to be happy and thus content. If the guy who makes $110K a year there thinks that's gonna continue while guys at GoJets are making 1/3 less to fly the same plane...then he will have to wait to see how it feels when at SW tailnumber is being flown by some new company and he has to now commute to some other base or get downgraded.

How's the short game?? dont' tell me...I can probably figure it out.

Fighting ignorance one day at a time, or as Ron white put it..."You can't fix stupid."
Mookie
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"No one else but you in IAH ever had a base close"!? How about they closed Bakersfield, they closed Pocatello, they closed SGU, they closed Paso Robles, they closed Ontario as a co-domicile, they closed LAX, they closed Yuma, they closed then after a long time reopened Carlsbad as a co-domicile...yeah right only you in IAH!
 
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BTW the 700's are going to SkyWest but the next block of 200's will go to ASA, supposed to be 20 to 25 of them.
 
Gr82Aviate said:
"No one else but you in IAH ever had a base close"!? How about they closed Bakersfield, they closed Pocatello, they closed SGU, they closed Paso Robles, they closed Ontario as a co-domicile, they closed LAX, they closed Yuma, they closed then after a long time reopened Carlsbad as a co-domicile...yeah right only you in IAH!
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apples to oranges.
PIH and SGU: three hour drive to slc??
Paso: :45 to SBA, SBP, SMX??
Bakertucky: 1 hr to FAT.
Ontario, Lax: Lax is open, and ontario is a suburb of Psp.
Carlsbad: open, and again, a suburb of SAN.

Yuma...well ya got me on that one...that was surely a crushing blow by closing of a base with 3 lines.

IAH was at least a 2.5 hr off line flight to the nearest domicile (DEN) and 90% of the base got displaced to ORD. (those who didnt' get hired at Continental).

Much respect,
Da' Mookie
 
Mookie said:
apples to oranges.
PIH and SGU: three hour drive to slc??
Paso: :45 to SBA, SBP, SMX??
Bakertucky: 1 hr to FAT.
Ontario, Lax: Lax is open, and ontario is a suburb of Psp.
Carlsbad: open, and again, a suburb of SAN.

Yuma...well ya got me on that one...that was surely a crushing blow by closing of a base with 3 lines.

IAH was at least a 2.5 hr off line flight to the nearest domicile (DEN) and 90% of the base got displaced to ORD. (those who didnt' get hired at Continental).

Much respect,
Da' Mookie
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Well, first off Yuma used to be a lot more than 3 lines...and as for the apples to oranges, if ya really want to get technical about it? IAH was for the most part only the most junior new hire fo's and the most junior captains who couldn't uprgrade in any other domiciles. This means most were probably not established in the IAH area with home ownership and or kids in school there and wives with established good jobs in the IAH area...All the bases I mentioned were much more senior, and the crews in them much more likely to be homeowners and have kids rooted in the local schools. I'm not trying to make it sound like I don't feel for the guys in IAH, I do; however when I was a young single guy here I moved half a dozen times because of the companies "needs", and it was a lot easier without all the extra problems of relocating a whole family including a wife with her own job that would be affected by the move, and last but not least all the bases I mentioned had been open for decades(except PRB, but we were promised it would remain open as long as SKYW was around), also leading to the pilots in those bases putting down long term "roots"...Not sure how long IAH was a base(2 or 3 maybe 4 yrs?), but I know it was nowhere near the length of time the ones I mentioned were.
 
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Gr82Aviate said:
"No one else but you in IAH ever had a base close"!? How about they closed Bakersfield, they closed Pocatello, they closed SGU, they closed Paso Robles, they closed Ontario as a co-domicile, they closed LAX, they closed Yuma, they closed then after a long time reopened Carlsbad as a co-domicile...yeah right only you in IAH!
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Yuma??? Who would have a base in Yuma? Nothing in Yuma but cows and explosions. While I'm at it, where the fu(k is Paso Robles??????????
 
FmrFreightDog said:
And you know this how, exactly?? And I do mean, exactly. What is your source? Or are you just spewing your usual BS?
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I'm not going to disclose, but a very high up and reliable source, so STFU.
 
80for80 said:
That many years at any regional would put you in the lifer/loser category. Why didn't you get on with a major in the late 90s when they were hiring like crazy? I bet you don't have a four year degree.
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Now here's a guy who has no idea how many guys who bet on the wrong horse are wishing they had kept that job at a regional. If SkyWstMan is pulling in over six figures and perhaps living in a domicile that he truly enjoys life isn't too bad. The guy hired on in 1994. Probably sat Metro reserve for a few years and ended up in the EMB eventually. When things heated up in 1997 he was probably close to upgrade. So if he upgraded in 97 or 98 he was a good prospect to go to a major in 2000 or maybe 2001. He's probably thanking his lucky stars he didn't take a job at UAL or DAL.
 
You must be mistaken. CFIT is world renown for his ability to pick up on only the truest scuttlebutt. Later, he shares with all his bestest friends here on Flight Info.
 
As of 11/28 Scott Hall was saying the 70 seat flying had not been allocated yet. He then speculated that if ASA got the flying we would have to get recruitment up to speed and start growing again BUT that it really depended on whether ASA's contract got wrapped up first.

So in other words, no change from the usual position from the official sources. You guys might know more, hence the real value in the FlightInference board.
 

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