NetJets Sim Prep

[Beeza]

I have an interview in two weeks, does anyone know of a simulator that would be good to prepare for NetJets simulator. I believe its set up like a Citation II. Thanks for the info.

 

[Ultra Grump]

As long as you're comfortable with steam gauges, you should do fine. I guess a Frasca would do the trick.

 

[jtf]

I just used my old version of Flight Simulater on my laptop using the C-182 since it had the steam guages. You don't have to go out and spend any extra money to prepare. When you are actually doing the sim ride you will need to scan quickly. The control column was a bit weird when I flew it- I would put in a little correction and then go through my scan quickly just in time to realize that the little correction didn't actually do anything- I had to go a little further and ended up with a bigger correction. I'd have had a problem if my scan wasn't fast enough to catch this. What I am trying to say here is that when you make a small movement on the yoke in that sim you MUST check to make sure that it actually did something. Try not to overcorrect, but make sure small movements were big enough for the sim to detect. Good luck.

 

[solafide]

Eaglesoft software development makes a Citation SII for FS2004 that is very realistic. Many people who have interviewed already have used it and found it helpful. I have used it as well, and am hoping it pays off. I'm currently in Columbus to interview tonight and tomorrow.

 

[Ultra Grump]

jtf - that's why I recommended the Frasca. They tend to be touchy in the controls as well, so it'll give a better feel than flying a computer sim. That said, I didn't bother with it myself, and I managed to get hired in that thing.

 

[Guitar Guy]

I agree with Ultra Grump's first response. If you are comfortable on steam gauges, you'll do fine. That said, I've heard from a recent interviewee that he was given the option to fly from the left or the right seat. The left seat is steam gauges while the right seat is glass.

If it makes you feel more comfortable to spend some time and money on a sim session, then do it. But it's really not a necessity. No one that I interviewed with did any sim prep.

Good luck to you.

 

[fly4funcrj]

I'm not sure, but when I interviewed in nov they let me fly the glass side. I came from an emb-145 and the glass was the same. I had a buddy practice in a frasca and he did just fine.. good luck

 

[Beeza]

Sounds good, i'll probably elect to fly from the right seat since that's the side I fly on with glass right now. I should be able to find a Frasca in STL, it's not a necessity but why not fly the profile a couple of times for peace of mind
Patience is a virtue that is needed in this process..Good Luck to all

 

[d91papa]

Sounds good, i'll probably elect to fly from the right seat since that's the side I fly on with glass right now. I should be able to find a Frasca in STL, it's not a necessity but why not fly the profile a couple of times for peace of mind
Patience is a virtue that is needed in this process..Good Luck to all

I used the Frasca at the pilot shop at SUS. The main advantage for myself having flown stable coupled A/C for the last ten years or more, is that it quickened my scan in a machine that didn't want to stay where you put it. That being said, I elected to fly glass from the right seat and did well enough to get the offer. NJA doesn't keep the profile a secret because I believe they want you to come prepared revealing your level of interest..they also brief you on the profile the night prior, parring you with your sim partner so again you can prepare and demonstrate your desire to be at NJA.

 

[jtf]

The glass is similar to the RJs, but if I remember right, there was no flight directer and the heading and altitude bugs are way over on the right side of the sim which makes it more difficult for the non flying pilot in the left seat to provide help. I flew the 145s for a few thousand hours before my interview and I am glad I used the steam gauges. I really think you will have a more difficult time using the right side. Good luck either way.

 

[p3hawk]

there's more to it

Just flyin the sim well is only half of the event. I would also practice up on approach brief, CRM is a biggy, and proper call outs as well.
Good Luck

 

[Archie Bunker]

Just flyin the sim well is only half of the event. I would also practice up on approach brief, CRM is a biggy, and proper call outs as well.
Good Luck

Exactly right.

Your time as the pilot not flying is being watched just as close as when you have the controls. While nobody expects you to know NJA callouts, just use your company callouts, or whatever you brief with your partner the night before. It's probably a good idea to brief the approach on the ground before you takeoff.

I thought the sim was pretty touchy and unstable, but I was used to flying a much bigger jet at the time. Also, I came from a glass cockpit, but I opted to fly the steam gauges because the glass presentation was a bit different from my current jet. The steam gauges are old school standard, and I didn't have any problems with them. If I can do it, anybody can.

 

[Just Peachy]

simulator

You dont mention where your taking the sim ck....... I took mine in Houston. It was in an old worn out steam gauge hawker. You couldnt do anything wrong in that machine because once you did an input, you would have to wait for something to happen !! Pretty sloppy.

As mentioned above, the sim operator is watching and listening to your co pilot dutys and call outs... cockpit resource mgmt is being looked at... Do an impressive briefing. It doesnt have to be long, just cover what your going to be doing ! If you see your partner starting to fumble, call it out ...like " ck bank angle" ck speed, ... waiting for before landing ck captian .... etc dont forget to brief the missed approach (even if you arent planning on one) and brief the min safe altitude, and how your going to enter the hold. The company is really big on all those things

 

[VVJM265]

NJA Sim Configuration?

Totally psyched - looks like the stars are aligning & I'll finally get up to Columbus in a few weeks for the interview after swimming in the pool all summer. Don't have FlightSim & won't have time to buy any real simulator time. I'm instructing in the King Air and very comfortable in both seats and with steam guages.

Would someone please confirm that the CII sim is configured with steam gauges in the left and glass on the right?

Just want to maximize my effort in the aircraft before I go to CMH.

Thanks in advance,
VVJM265

 

[Guitar Guy]

Totally psyched - looks like the stars are aligning & I'll fianlly get up to Columbus in a few weeks for the interview after swimming in the pool all summer. Don't have FlightSim & won't have time to buy any real simulator time. I'm instructing in the King Air and very comfortable in both seats and with steam guages.

Would someone please confirm that the CII sim is configured with steam gauges in the left and glass on the right?

Just want to maximize my effort in the aircraft before I go to CMH.

Thanks in advanced,
VVJM265

Yes, steam gauges (or "classic") on the left and glass on the right. It was that way when I interviewed 2 years ago and it's still that way according to a friend of mine who interviewed this past summer.

Congrats and good luck. Just relax, be yourself and you'll do fine.

 

[VVJM265]

Congrats and good luck. Just relax, be yourself and you'll do fine.

Thanks!

 

[Guitar Guy]

Thanks!

Are you looking for DAL as your domicile?

 

[jherk02]

With the aviation background you have posted my bet is that you will think the sim is easy.

Good Luck!

 

[captain dad]

Do the computer flight sim yoke microsoft 2004 sim thing. Get it cheap on Ebay and do the eagle software citaion II add on. It is a little spending but when you sit in the sim you will be as ready as possible. Worked for me I got hired.

 

[VVJM265]

Thanks for the encouragement guys. I cut my teeth flying the the Saberliner in the Med; that & the C-26 out of Naples were my favorite tours so I know I'll love the flying at NJA.

Thanks for the tip on the software, I'll look into that.

Are you looking for DAL as your domicile?

GG, yes we are hoping for DAL. We need to stay in TX until my wife finishes grad school and will probably stay in the state long term.