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Jetblue A-320 to Land at ORD 1030AM CST
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Slow to .70
Now slow to 250 for flow into Ohare.
Give me 170 to the marker, call tower there.
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Flow into JFK, pull into the pad and shut them down. New release time in 90 minutes.
Expect holding instructions at YEE.
Have fun JBlue. Although, given the fact that all that runs direct ORD to JFK is regional jets, I think a lot of people will take it including me. I don't mind being delayed when I can watch TV.
Now slow to 250 for flow into Ohare.
Give me 170 to the marker, call tower there.
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Flow into JFK, pull into the pad and shut them down. New release time in 90 minutes.
Expect holding instructions at YEE.
Have fun JBlue. Although, given the fact that all that runs direct ORD to JFK is regional jets, I think a lot of people will take it including me. I don't mind being delayed when I can watch TV.
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So what time does the investor conference call start in Spring of 2007 regarding the plummenting aircraft daily utilization numbers.
I just watched the CNBC coverage (1225 EST) The first question asked by Phil Lebeau was not about ORD service, guess what he asked about............................
Neeleman's response. "Certainly if we had to do it again we would have asked for headquarters approval"
The next was about dirty cabins.
CNBC obviously caught him off guard. DN was stuck standing in the rain, while he snapped his gum. You could tel he frustrated not to get his message about new service across.
Neeleman's response. "Certainly if we had to do it again we would have asked for headquarters approval"
The next was about dirty cabins.
CNBC obviously caught him off guard. DN was stuck standing in the rain, while he snapped his gum. You could tel he frustrated not to get his message about new service across.
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The real question is: will that same crew continue onto LGB, and then back to JFK in one day, with pax onboard? Have you guys learned your lesson yet? Don't bust FAR's. Maybe the POI will be onboard and approve it, and also approve a low approach over downtown Chicago.....
Bye Bye--General Lee
I don't know what interview you saw but your jealousy obviously clouds your vison, by the way I wouuld like to thank Neeleman for the 40% return on my CSPP yeaaaaaaaaaboy.
Hey General, the FAA got caught with it's pants down on this one, that's why we were given a letter not to do it again and nothing else. No fine, no penalty, no violations. I know you were hoping for one of the above, sorry. The case is closed, but you and your buddy FDJ2 don't want to let it go. If you and your management would concern yourselves with other things besides JB, you might not be in the shape you're in. No worries, though, BK laws will allow your management to continue to make poor decisions without consequence, so all is well.
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As usual,,General Lee can't help bash B6...I could say about a million things about UAL ,but I don't. Try to say something positive for a change General.
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Looks like you have been sending back planes and mirroring a lot we have been going through during BK. I hope you guys don't get to where we were, which could happen. Your own management is under scrutiny by investors and analysts too. We are getting better though, and are starting to post some modest profits, which will hopefully grow. Also, we have announced more INTL destinations and larger planes (777LRs), so things seem to be getting better. Thanks for your concern. Still, it sounds like a coverup that you do not want to get out. Let's hope JB shows the world the test results, including the transcons with a day sleep and allnighter later that day. Can't wait.
Bye Bye--General Lee
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I have something positive---unlimited jumpseats on DL for all Jetblue pilots! Welcome onboard!
Bye Bye--General Lee
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Easy to do when there is only one place to go when the bottom of the pond has been reached?
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Investors and analysts are so worried that our stock went up after the earnings report came out and jumped again after we announced Newburgh and Chicago.
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Sure, your stock also went up when you announced slowing growth. Seems like you can't sustain that huge growth you used to have. Selling planes, slowing deliveries, good for you guys. SWF should be fun with Airtran there, and ORD will smack you around like a bi-atch. Enjoy that. Your on-time performance, which already is in the toilet due to JFK and our numerous Dash 8s in your way, will slide even more. Good times.
Bye Bye--General Lee
As I stated before, DL management throws D8's and RJS into JFK like there's no tomorrow. Yes, it hurts our on time perf, but yours as well. The big difference is, we have to pay our bills right now and you don't, so the more 37 seaters the better, right? There should be some accountability at some point, but that's not the way the current system is set up. So it goes...
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Hey, you are welcome to try the CHAP 11 process. It is open to anyone, any company. IF you really want to try it, do it. I don't suggest it though. Not fun. But, if your company gets into deep do do, then you would be happy to have the option. That is the way it goes. And, the Dash 8s and RJs hurt all of our collective bottom lines, but we actually get feed from them onto our planes to go here and there, while you only see the negative, higher gas bills and on time performance in the toilet at your major hub.
Bye Bye--General Lee
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Jez,,your a freakin genius.....You know everything about everything...bet your a blast to fly with....
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I was personally responsible for most of the 2300 early Captain retirements a couple years back. I guess they "finally flew with the BEST....."
Bye Bye--General Lee
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Can you even imagine what a Bankrupt JetBlue would sell ticket prices for. He11, we might just relocate our entire operation to ATL and then pay people to ride us.
I gotta jump in here. I worked that JBU flight out of JFK while working JFK depature control today. I noticed ORD on the flight strip, and figured it was the inagural flight, but didnt say anthing because of other priorities at the time. Congrats to JBU.
Anyway, I'm a controller at NY TRACON in the JFK sector, and I must say, that our volume is going up and and up and up. First it was JBU A320's, then lots of RJ's, then E190's from JBU, then a host of new Intl carriers, then the rise and fall of Song, now the Dash 8s. I heard that we were holding at CAMRN and LENDY (for those of you who know the airspace) at 8am the last few mornings due to volume. I have been working in the sector for 7+ years and have NEVER seen us holding at 8am, unless we were on ILS 13L or the weather was really really crappy. We held those days for VOLUME, on a clear and a million day nonetheless. For those of you who fly into JFK a lot, you might expect holding around 3pm or 6-8pm, but never on a day shift! I can also remember working midnight shifts and early day shifts (530-130p), and working all the redeye's over LENDY between 4-7am, then it was dead until noon when the ROBER traffic showed up. These days, at 7am, we are pumping traffic. Throw in a wrench such a any kind of wind or bad weather, or JFK tower telling us to stay off the overflow runway (22R, 4L, and 31L), and we are at capacity quick.
Just some thoughts from a controller as to the delays I think JFK is going to start to see in the near future due to sheer volume. Remember people, you throw a few heavys into the mix at JFK, and the finals start getting real stretched out...
Anyway, I'm a controller at NY TRACON in the JFK sector, and I must say, that our volume is going up and and up and up. First it was JBU A320's, then lots of RJ's, then E190's from JBU, then a host of new Intl carriers, then the rise and fall of Song, now the Dash 8s. I heard that we were holding at CAMRN and LENDY (for those of you who know the airspace) at 8am the last few mornings due to volume. I have been working in the sector for 7+ years and have NEVER seen us holding at 8am, unless we were on ILS 13L or the weather was really really crappy. We held those days for VOLUME, on a clear and a million day nonetheless. For those of you who fly into JFK a lot, you might expect holding around 3pm or 6-8pm, but never on a day shift! I can also remember working midnight shifts and early day shifts (530-130p), and working all the redeye's over LENDY between 4-7am, then it was dead until noon when the ROBER traffic showed up. These days, at 7am, we are pumping traffic. Throw in a wrench such a any kind of wind or bad weather, or JFK tower telling us to stay off the overflow runway (22R, 4L, and 31L), and we are at capacity quick.
Just some thoughts from a controller as to the delays I think JFK is going to start to see in the near future due to sheer volume. Remember people, you throw a few heavys into the mix at JFK, and the finals start getting real stretched out...
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Wow, that was a classic. How long did it take for you to come up with that one? Academy Award for writing....
Bye Bye--General Lee
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