Uniforms

[Joe Schmo]

Wasn't making an excuse, mearly stating a basic point you get what pay for.

If you wan't fresh dry cleaned, starched uniforms, the best luggage, and the overall best professional attitudes, my personal belief is that the level of professionalism is worth a hell of alot more then $300-$400 dollars a week.

I've heard at other companies managament has sent out memos telling pilots that they were not to dress up in their uniforms on their days off and go to the welfare office.

I'm not making an excuse in saying that pilots should be lazy and neglect their flight duties in anyway, but most pilots do take pride in their work.
So if they can't afford the $300 luggage, stock their wardrobe with 20 uniforms, and might, on the off chance, wear the same uniform 2 or 3 days in a row, I for one can understand that.

 

[XJohXJ]

Can't pay for dry cleaning if you're struggling just to pay the rent or put food on the table. Certainly can't buy new uniform items if living within poverty guidelines. Not an excuse. Fiscal reality.

 

[BoilerUP]

Its the chicken and the egg philosophy:

You'll dress more when you're paid more

-or-

You'll be paid like a professional when you dress and act like one.


Mr. Schmo subscribes to #1, while I believe in #2.

 

[KeroseneSnorter]

Wasn't making an excuse, mearly stating a basic point you get what pay for.

So what you are saying is that you have 1500 hours, and dress like a slob, and use terms like "Semenhole" to describe your previous experience in aviation.

So I guess they did get what they paid for.

 

[Axel]

... you get what pay for....

Anyone else see the irony in this statement?

(edit:Kerosene Snorter does. Beat me to it.)

 

[DrewBlows]

Female pilots - please don't wear hot pants and walk around the terminal...

Okay, I've never seen a female pilot in hot pants, but I really don't think that you should be dissuading this behavior on a public forum. If a hot female pilot wants to express herself, who are you to criticize? You do want them to express themselves, don't you? You should be ashamed of yourself.

 

[Magneto]

hot female pilot

That's an oxymoron if I've ever seen one. Most female pilots I know are more manly (sp?) than I am.

 

[CaptETWes]

Its the chicken and the egg philosophy:

You'll dress more when you're paid more

-or-

You'll be paid like a professional when you dress and act like one.


Mr. Schmo subscribes to #1, while I believe in #2.

Couldn't agree more. If a company sees unprofessional dress and/or behavior amongst the paying public, what incentive do they have to pay more come contract renewal time? Does anyone actually believe that could be used as leverage? However, it all boils down to personal respect. If you dress like a slob, you should expect to be thought of as one and treated like one. The unfortunate bi-product of this is that you are a direct reflection of your company.

 

[ReverseSensing]

If a hot female pilot wants to express herself, who are you to criticize?

The problem isn't the hot female pilot in hotpants (not that I've ever seen one); the problem is that hotpants belong on hot females. Ergo, they have no place on female pilots.



*running for cover*

 

[fatazz]

I don't think management really cares how you dress in regards to contract negotiations and what they are willing to pay you. Sure apperance does reflect on the company, but professionalism is more than dressing nice. Reminds me of the saying you get what you pay for.

 

[Joe Schmo]

I don't think management really cares how you dress in regards to contract negotiations and what they are willing to pay you. Sure apperance does reflect on the company, but professionalism is more than dressing nice. Reminds me of the saying you get what you pay for.

Thanks thats the freakin point I was trying to make.

 

[NEDude]

Okay, I've never seen a female pilot in hot pants, but I really don't think that you should be dissuading this behavior on a public forum. If a hot female pilot wants to express herself, who are you to criticize? You do want them to express themselves, don't you? You should be ashamed of yourself.

Guys, have you really taken a look at most female pilots? There are a few good looking ones out there, but they are few and far between. Funny thing is the good looking ones are dressed the best (most professional). The ones in the quasi hot pants are usually not much to look at.

Perhaps I am weird (okay there is no perhaps about it), but I have never been one for the trashy look on women, no matter how hot they may be. A classy look is what I like.

 

[Booker]

And remember the rule, folks: Dress for the job you want, not the job you have.

...Unfortunately, M&H won't send me a United uniform without a valid file number.

 

[twinbeech]

I couldn't help but rub my eyes when I saw a great looking pair of hot pants on a Dash driver in CLT last week. I know the "hot chick pilot" is kinda like the legend of bigfoot, but I swear I saw her!

 

[suupah]

Couldn't agree more. If a company sees unprofessional dress and/or behavior amongst the paying public, what incentive do they have to pay more come contract renewal time? Does anyone actually believe that could be used as leverage? However, it all boils down to personal respect. If you dress like a slob, you should expect to be thought of as one and treated like one. The unfortunate bi-product of this is that you are a direct reflection of your company.

I don't think this has any bearing on pilot pay negotiations. I believe it is more supply of labor and demand for it. Come contract time, if their is high demand of pilot labor and a low supply of it the pilots will have leverage. How they dress doesn't matter too much as long as it is the uniform.