Uniforms

[DrewBlows]

Female pilots - please don't wear hot pants and walk around the terminal...

Okay, I've never seen a female pilot in hot pants, but I really don't think that you should be dissuading this behavior on a public forum. If a hot female pilot wants to express herself, who are you to criticize? You do want them to express themselves, don't you? You should be ashamed of yourself.

 

[Magneto]

hot female pilot

That's an oxymoron if I've ever seen one. Most female pilots I know are more manly (sp?) than I am.

 

[CaptETWes]

Its the chicken and the egg philosophy:

You'll dress more when you're paid more

-or-

You'll be paid like a professional when you dress and act like one.


Mr. Schmo subscribes to #1, while I believe in #2.

Couldn't agree more. If a company sees unprofessional dress and/or behavior amongst the paying public, what incentive do they have to pay more come contract renewal time? Does anyone actually believe that could be used as leverage? However, it all boils down to personal respect. If you dress like a slob, you should expect to be thought of as one and treated like one. The unfortunate bi-product of this is that you are a direct reflection of your company.

 

[ReverseSensing]

If a hot female pilot wants to express herself, who are you to criticize?

The problem isn't the hot female pilot in hotpants (not that I've ever seen one); the problem is that hotpants belong on hot females. Ergo, they have no place on female pilots.



*running for cover*

 

[fatazz]

I don't think management really cares how you dress in regards to contract negotiations and what they are willing to pay you. Sure apperance does reflect on the company, but professionalism is more than dressing nice. Reminds me of the saying you get what you pay for.

 

[Joe Schmo]

I don't think management really cares how you dress in regards to contract negotiations and what they are willing to pay you. Sure apperance does reflect on the company, but professionalism is more than dressing nice. Reminds me of the saying you get what you pay for.

Thanks thats the freakin point I was trying to make.

 

[NEDude]

Okay, I've never seen a female pilot in hot pants, but I really don't think that you should be dissuading this behavior on a public forum. If a hot female pilot wants to express herself, who are you to criticize? You do want them to express themselves, don't you? You should be ashamed of yourself.

Guys, have you really taken a look at most female pilots? There are a few good looking ones out there, but they are few and far between. Funny thing is the good looking ones are dressed the best (most professional). The ones in the quasi hot pants are usually not much to look at.

Perhaps I am weird (okay there is no perhaps about it), but I have never been one for the trashy look on women, no matter how hot they may be. A classy look is what I like.

 

[Booker]

And remember the rule, folks: Dress for the job you want, not the job you have.

...Unfortunately, M&H won't send me a United uniform without a valid file number.

 

[twinbeech]

I couldn't help but rub my eyes when I saw a great looking pair of hot pants on a Dash driver in CLT last week. I know the "hot chick pilot" is kinda like the legend of bigfoot, but I swear I saw her!

 

[suupah]

Couldn't agree more. If a company sees unprofessional dress and/or behavior amongst the paying public, what incentive do they have to pay more come contract renewal time? Does anyone actually believe that could be used as leverage? However, it all boils down to personal respect. If you dress like a slob, you should expect to be thought of as one and treated like one. The unfortunate bi-product of this is that you are a direct reflection of your company.

I don't think this has any bearing on pilot pay negotiations. I believe it is more supply of labor and demand for it. Come contract time, if their is high demand of pilot labor and a low supply of it the pilots will have leverage. How they dress doesn't matter too much as long as it is the uniform.

 

[CaptETWes]

I don't think this has any bearing on pilot pay negotiations. I believe it is more supply of labor and demand for it. Come contract time, if their is high demand of pilot labor and a low supply of it the pilots will have leverage. How they dress doesn't matter too much as long as it is the uniform.

I agree with these points. However, the point I was trying to make was in reference to another's post about how he would dress more professionally if he got paid more. The bottom line is that - in my view - the public sees how you dress as a direct reflection of yourself first followed by the company a close second. Most would agree that normal passenger wouldn't know the difference between a United and American uniform anyway. It's all about presentation and if you don't take pride in it, I think that says a lot about who you are.

 

[atrdriver]

...professionalism is more than dressing nice.

Yes it is. But lets face it, the public in the terminals judge us by what they see. They can't see us be professional in our duties. It's the same thing as most passengers judging the quality of the pilot by the landing. You may have flown the best flight of your life, but if you slam it down in a crosswind they are going to think you aren't a good pilot. In the terminal it is the same, but it's how we look. If you want the public to see you as a professional, then look like one. If you want them to see you as a bus driver, then dress like Ralph Cramden, but be prepared for the consequences.

 

[ReverseSensing]

If you want the public to see you as a professional, then look like one.

You mean by sporting a huge bulge in my pants? -- my wallet pocket, of course!

 

[timeoff]

Guess some guys have never heard of the self-fulfilling prophecy?

 

[Stifler's Mom]

Your new uniform pieces are tax deductible. If I need a new uniform shirt, shoes, tie, etc, I purchase it right before the end of the year and expense it on my taxes. I'm only out that money for a minimal amount of time.

 

[CA1900]

Did they guy look anything like this?

 

[BoilerUP]

Did they guy look anything like this?

You gotta admit, that is some funny shiat!:laugh:

 

[bailout]

The issue here is that management doesnt see Regional pilots as professionals.

I think some guys do go too far in wearing baseball caps, tennis shoes, etc,. but I lean towards the side of - treat me like a professional, and I will act like one-

No different than our current contract situation. If you think going the extra mile to save fuel, leave on time, etc will help settle a contract you are sadly mistaken. Its the opposite... Make everyone happy, and they will go above and beyond to care.

 

[dingo222]

It has nothing to do with management or your next contract. It comes down to STANDARDS. If you don't meet the standard in the sim, you get pulled off the line, and probably sent packing. Not everyone can afford new uniforms all the time, or professionally tailored jackets. God knows I can't. Wearing the uniform is part of the job. If you cannot meet or exceed the standard, you need to seek opportunity elsewhere.

 

[fatazz]

STANDARDS, it's not the military. Relax it's just a shirt and pants, that doen't effect safety.