Mesaba VS. Pinnacle

[YourPilotFriend]

You just got 36 jets, now have at it. How low can you go?

 

[pilotdiscretion]

After Pinnacle's picketing last night in Detroit Mesaba MEC Chairman Tom Wycor was given a pair of boxing gloves signed by almost 100 Pinnacle pilots as gift showing support for the Mesaba pilots in their "Fight" against this exact thing. Tom asked Pinnacle MEC Chairman Wake Gordon to come up to the podium and they each put one glove standing together and spoke about unity. There are pictures floating around some where.

We are organized and for the most part unified. The question now is ... what under paid pilot group is going to step in and operate these planes?

 

[whaleroast]

I'll take a stab...Mesa?

 

[Terry Hunter]

The illusion of growth would not sway my stance on concessions at Mesaba.

NOFD

 

[YourPilotFriend]

There are 96 additional options that will be converted to Q400s at a later date. No word on DC-9 replacements, which with this order seems highly unlikely.

 

[XJohXJ]

None of this matters. Nothing counts until the planes (more than two, at least...) are painted and parked in your hanger, and 20 or so guys have gone through training. And none of that even counts until management goes back into their cages.

 

[Spinn555]

My wager is that the Mesaba pilot group will cave, in order for growth. Their union has already offered a 15% cut.

Sure, there are many people around that airline saying "Not one dime!" But, put them at a table with a ballot, and they will vote anything in that puts them in a different situation than what they currently are in.

weasels.

 

[big shacks]

"Not one Cent" Weasel
Who knows what will happen?

 

[redflyer65]

I trust that the Mesaba pilots will not cave. They are one of the most pissed off pilot groups I've seen lately (rightly so). Most not only will vote NO on concessions but will also for current book. Mesaba management has now painted themselves into the corner, and it's their problem now. They wanted a fight, I fear they have one. Good luck folks at Mesaba and hold the line.

Northwest won't be able to control Mesa or any other regional like they enjoy doing with Mesaba and PCL. It would definitely be a move that they would regret rather quickly.

Game On!

 

[NuGuy]

FWIW, as the EMBs are going to Compass, NWA furloughees have %100 of the seats reserved.

As NWA is purchasing/leasing the CRJs, NWA pilots own half those seats also.

Nu

 

[Dumb Pilot]

FWIW, as the EMBs are going to Compass, NWA furloughees have %100 of the seats reserved.

As NWA is purchasing/leasing the CRJs, NWA pilots own half those seats also.

Nu

Correct. But, who is going to take it? they have gone trough more than half the furlough list to cover what? 65 slots? And this is not to go into Compass or PCL, this is going into MAILINE. I expect that a handful of furlough's will end up in Compass at best. Most of those jobs will go to folks off the street

 

[wmudriver]

36 CRJ's - 35 Avros - 1 CRJ (to compass)=no growth at XJ. After seeing both of the latest proposals being thrown around, I couldn't afford to and won't work there if I were called back. Absolutely dispicable what managment has done to that company.

Spanjers can kiss my hairy beanbag and I hope he gets crabs.

 

[GidgetDog]

Ruh-Roh

I see that zee shiny jet seeyndrome eeez making zee very, very sleepy.....

 

[N590MA]

Can't speak for anybody but me, But I will vote NO for any tenative agreement that has any concessions. The problem is that most of us are trying to run out the door to better places, and won't be around to vote this hunk of poo down.:bomb:

 

[kmox29]

You just got 36 jets, now have at it. How low can you go?

I KNOW! Hey Mesaba, you could sign a horrible TA and create another regional so the furloughed Mesaba pilots could come back to work. If that sounds unusually hard to justify, ask YourPilotFriend how to do it.

 

[lookin4better]

RAH dirtbags will take it all

 

[steve-o]

I guess i'm one of the those RAH dirtbags that you speak of..... but i'd like to say that I wish all Mesaba guys the best....There are alot of good guys over there that deserve it!!!!!

 

[Flyer1015]

Isn't Mesaba losing all 36 Avros (how many removed so far?)

36 Avros replaced with 36 CR9s? It would be nice if Mesaba could get them* as opposed to just be reduced down to a Saab only fleet.




*(without being forced to take concessions)

 

[DoinTime]

As NWA is purchasing/leasing the CRJs, NWA pilots own half those seats also.

How do you figure? If any of these aircraft come to Mesaba or Pinnacle you can bet your *ss we won't be giving away seats. If NWA pilots want those seats they can put them on their certificate.

 

[whaleroast]

How do you figure? If any of these aircraft come to Mesaba or Pinnacle you can bet your *ss we won't be giving away seats. If NWA pilots want those seats they can put them on their certificate.

They can have my seat. I call uncle. I'm done.