Air Wisconsin Schedules

[afpilotselect]

Can any Air Wisconsin pilots tell me what the shedules are like? I know 12 days off is the minimum. What do the reserves lines look like? Any info would be appreciated.

 

[DirkkDiggler]

Reserve is usually something like 5 on 3 off. You will just about always get one weekend a month off this way and then you'll have a bunch of weekdays off. Reserve F/O's aren't being used much right now even though we're still hiring. I don't get it.

 

[mynameisjim]

35 day no fly streak for me

 

[Whataboutbob]

Skywest or Air Wisconsin?

 

[mynameisjim]

Who said anything about Skywest?

 

[Whataboutbob]

Sorry to add to the "Skywest or Air Wisconsin" quote, I was just wondering which place would be a better job option for somebody from the midwest based on current circumstances at both carriers?

 

[AWACO]

The schedules are NOT commuter friendly at all at Wisconsin, I would go to Skywest if you are choosing between the two. I feel Wisconsin is a better company overall but nothing makes up for a crappy commute to the east coast, nothing.

 

[Drill Sgt. Dad]

I have 2 day trips followed by 3 day trips. On 5 straight days. Have to commute up the night before. I can't get home btween my two trips and on the last day, I finish too late to go home. I am trying to drop as much as I can. Good work rules, I am treated very well here. But theschedules do stink worse than a polecat on a hot summer day.

 

[ILLINI]

Reserve is usually something like 5 on 3 off. You will just about always get one weekend a month off this way and then you'll have a bunch of weekdays off. Reserve F/O's aren't being used much right now even though we're still hiring. I don't get it.

They are hiring when they are currently "fat" on FOs because either way they will be needed once their is a decision on the Midwest flying. If we get it, we will need new blood to staff the growth... if we don't, they are anticipating many will leave due to lack of confidence in the company. Either way, there will be movement.

 

[1973Arrow]

Can any Air Wisconsin pilots tell me what the shedules are like?

They suck, does that cover it? In reality, they aren't what the company used to produce. Unfortunately, they're on par with what every other company is doing. There have been some rumbilings about the new president in for chaning some things, schduling being one of them. I'll believe it when I see the bid package.

 

[afpilotselect]

Schedules

With 12 days off a month, I figured the schedules couldn't be that bad. Guess not.

 

[CaptETWes]

With 12 days off a month, I figured the schedules couldn't be that bad. Guess not.

That's just about the only thing you'll here an Air Whisky pilot complain about. Got a pretty good contract, work rules, and pay; better than most other regionals. As someone alluded to, there will be some vertical movement for one reason or another in the next 6-12 months. Perhaps sooner. If this is where you want to be, now is the time to get on. Good luck.

 

[BoilerUP]

I personally thought schedules in PHL were much better in October compared to the previous 3 months. The lines were lower block & credit, but had more days off and fewer totally non-commutable lines.

Long Call (LC) reserve is super-senior because people don't often get called to fly...while guys like me can't drop a trip to save our lives due to "maintain RSV coverage"...WTF

 

[n757st]

I personally thought schedules in PHL were much better in October compared to the previous 3 months. The lines were lower block & credit, but had more days off and fewer totally non-commutable lines.

Long Call (LC) reserve is super-senior because people don't often get called to fly...while guys like me can't drop a trip to save our lives due to "maintain RSV coverage"...WTF

I don't know, my October line might have more days off, but it has earlier starts too... That being said I had a great line in September... so who knows. I have also been consistantly loosing senority in PHL, went down 4 or 5 slots in the last couple months, seems we are shrinking to the benefit of the DCA folks.

 

[1973Arrow]

I have also been consistantly loosing senority in PHL, went down 4 or 5 slots in the last couple months, seems we are shrinking to the benefit of the DCA folks.

They must be placing those people between your number and mine ...Worst I've done yet is moving up 3 spots per month.

 

[n757st]

With 12 days off a month, I figured the schedules couldn't be that bad. Guess not.

If you live in base the schedules are great, I live in PHL and average 15 days off a month... All my shows in September were after 4pm, but I did not get done until 8:30pm-9:00pm.... plus PHL factor of course. Again, if you live on the east coast the schedules are not too bad, especially if you live in places like BDL,PVD,BTV,BOS,RDU... etc that all have 5:30 am flights in the morning and 10:45pm flights at night. The west coast is not too terrible either because you have multiple red-eyes which would give you the commuter clause for an early show, but anywhere east of PHX and west of the eastern time zone and the commute might be more of a hassle then it is worth. And if you commute from MKE or DEN, don't bother.

 

[n757st]

They must be placing those people between your number and mine ...Worst I've done yet is moving up 3 spots per month.

Ahh nevermind, I guess I did move up 3 slots last month. Disreguard... always correcting me T.

 

[1973Arrow]

Ahh nevermind, I guess I did move up 3 slots last month. Disreguard... always correcting me T.

I'm smarter than I look...
Ski Wisconsin baby!!!

 

[n757st]

I'm smarter than I look...
Ski Wisconsin baby!!!

Haha... I have that ski wisconsin on my flight case now.

 

[mynameisjim]

The lines were lower block & credit, but had more days off...

Same thing in ORF, but I attribute it to being slightly higher staffed than before. I wouldn't say that the ORF schedule construction has changed much since I started working here.

 

[crashpad]

Just heard you guys are going to hook up with F9 outta DEN and SFO sometime in February. Does any else have info. of this new development?

 

[Beechnut]

No Crashpad. We are told that we have not been invited to bid on the Frontier flying.

Do you work at Frontier and did you just awarded us flying? Or are you just a line pilot spewing crap?

S.

 

[AdSo81]

HA HA HA HA...oh man, your FRIGGEN hilarious!

 

[CaptETWes]

No Crashpad. We are told that we have not been invited to bid on the Frontier flying.

Do you work at Frontier and did you just awarded us flying? Or are you just a line pilot spewing crap?

S.

The Frontier announcement is less than a couple weeks old. I think we'll be asked to bid once they get around to sending out the RFPs. It's obvious by the number of bids that AWAC has out and the fact we seem to have the desire to diversify that we'll get involved with Frontier soon. It's kind of like the Midwest flying at first, almost to good to be true for a lot of our pilot group as far as bases go.

As far as Crashpad goes, I've been told he's former AWAC. However, from personal experience on this forum with him, he has advocated that we drop the contract grievance to show Midwest we are a pilot group that will submit to management and that we are Midwests' future pilot base. That's almost a direct quote.

 

[crashpad]

As for giving up your grievence, I could care less (and neither could your management). I have always contended the AWAC pilot group was their own worst enemy (you're precious ALPA MEC sold you down the river 4 yrs ago, remember?) , and maybe...just maybe if you tried working with the owners instead of against them, you might get further ahead.

Either way, I hate to see you guys falling asleep in the jumpseat on the DEN/PHL redeye because you're getting the whip cracked across your back by management.

 

[T-Storm Chaser]

he has advocated that we drop the contract grievance to show Midwest we are a pilot group that will submit to management and that we are Midwests' future pilot base. That's almost a direct quote.

Hmmm, that will be a cold day in hell that the pilot group agrees to that. I think we have proven that we will see the grievance to the end. And the longer mgmt uses their stall tactics, the more they will probably end up forking out.

 

[Beetle007]

The schedules are NOT commuter friendly at all at Wisconsin, I would go to Skywest if you are choosing between the two. I feel Wisconsin is a better company overall but nothing makes up for a crappy commute to the east coast, nothing.

How about you relocate to a base. You have chosen location over lifestyle.

You say nothing makes up for the crappy commute, but obviously your location (or something) makes up for it. Otherwise you would relocate. Correct me if I am wrong, but Air Wisc will pay for you to move.

 

[CaptETWes]

Correct me if I am wrong, but Air Wisc will pay for you to move.

Only if you are displaced from a closed domicile. Otherwise, the first move is on you.

 

[DirkkDiggler]

Only if you are displaced from a closed domicile. Otherwise, the first move is on you.

Anyone who's been here more than a year is owed a move since EVERYONE was displaced from their domicile. Anyone who's been here less than a year knew we were closing those domiciles when they got hired and made a choice to commute. There is no room to complain.

 

[DiverDriver]

Anyone who's been here more than a year is owed a move since EVERYONE was displaced from their domicile. Anyone who's been here less than a year knew we were closing those domiciles when they got hired and made a choice to commute. There is no room to complain.

I got displaced. I can bitch all I want. My schedule for September looks like this: Show 7am day one causing a commute the night before. Get done at 2130 day four. Commute home the day after. 2 legs off line commute. I had 4 days home this month. Luckily, I got jury duty and most of this schedule was wiped out for me but some poor soul had to fly it. The pairing had a 21 hour sit in CLT. They're telling me they can't find some flight out of here to keep me going so I don't end up on back of day flying? Ugh.