Leave SWA for Fed Ex

[BVT94]

You and Whataburger are just like the DAL and AA arrogant pilots of old. You call yourselves such motivated and people friendly individuals, but you blast this guy and tell him basically to get lost.

This guy is simply asking a question. He is probably great to fly with and a nice guy. But since he might leave you decide he's an enemy and should now be despised.

I'll let you in on something. Everyone has tough choices to make in life. This guy is no less a good guy for making one. You guys are way too judgmental.

Jackasses....

I guess calling someone a Jackass isn't considered judgemental in FlyBoeingJets world.

 

[propjob27]

If he thinks he needs to leave, he should. We only want people who WANT to be HERE. You come to SWA to work for SWA.

These zealot type responses are freakin ridiculous. Yeah, anyone who ever thinks about leaving Southwest should be drawn and quartered. You guys sound like Nazis.

Now, back to the original question. Lowpay: Why are you asking this question?? Do you currently work for Southwest and have a job offer from FedEX? Or did you just feel like starting a completely pointless thread?

If you are a less than 1 year employee at Southwest, and are hired by FedEX and waiting for a class, then you have a choice to make.

 

[satpak77]

If you are already AT SWA, I would stay.

But what do I know...

 

[Fly2Scuba]

I'd go to Mesa

 

[DLax85]

The question is legit.

I know of at least 2 SWA FOs who left this summer to accept 727 training slots at FEDEX.

Both applied to FEDEX before they were interviewed and hired by SWA --- in both cases the meet-n-greet, interview and call to initial training were just spread out too far for them to come to FEDEX first.

They both had good experiences at SWA, but it wasn't good enough to keep them from coming to FEDEX given their personal situations.

I also have had buddies who got on with SWA and then declined FEDEX interviews once offered.

Both are great companies --- but in two distinct industries -- they both just happen to use aircraft and employ pilots.

I think there are many distinct pros with both companies, and in the end it is about what's best for you and your family.

Just like in the military --- if/when a pilot choses to leave --- I think, we should all shake their hand and tell them "thanks" for their service, regardless if they make it all the way to retirement.

Aloha

 

[Marty Moose]

The question is legit.

I know of at least 2 SWA FOs who left this summer to accept 727 training slots at FEDEX.

Both applied to FEDEX before they were interviewed and hired by SWA --- in both cases the meet-n-greet, interview and call to initial training were just spread out too far for them to come to FEDEX first.

They both had good experiences at SWA, but it wasn't good enough to keep them from coming to FEDEX given their personal situations.

I also have had buddies who got on with SWA and then declined FEDEX interviews once offered.

Both are great companies --- but in two distinct industries -- they both just happen to use aircraft and employ pilots.

I think there are many distinct pros with both companies, and in the end it is about what's best for you and your family.

Just like in the military --- if/when a pilot choses to leave --- I think, we should all shake their hand and tell them "thanks" for their service, regardless if they make it all the way to retirement.

Aloha

AMEN BROTHER!!!

 

[propjob27]

The question is legit, if the original poster has this choice in the 1st place. Otherwise, you're just starting a pointless argument. Though it is entertaining to hear the Nazi-Zealots start yelling "IF YOU EVEN THINK ABOUT WANTING TO LEAVE SOUTHWEST, THEN LEAVE NOW! WE DON'T NEED YOUR KIND AROUND HERE!"

A couple of guys have asked the original poster if he actually is in this situation, and he has not answered.

 

[Wingsweep]

Practical question...

How did your training go at SW? Did you breeze through it, or did you find it difficult? Bottom line is are you absolutely sure you'll get through FedEx training? Hope you don't take it as an insult and I'm not trying to be a wise guy--just self-evaluate because a "see-ya" at SW followed by a wash-out at FedEx would be a life-altering experience... respectfully, ws.

 

[Cloudroller]

If you're senior to me, by all means.........go!:smash:

thats what i was thinking

 

[jball2]

duece and propjob-
Our culture is a big issue here. In order to protect it, we must have employees who want to be here. I don't wan't the guy sitting next to me to wishing he/she were somewhere else. He won't take as much pride in his/her job here.

Propjob- the name calling is real mature. You lost any credibility you may have had here.

 

[SWA/FO]

HE DOES NOT HAVE AN EMPLOYEE NUMBER AT SWA, yet. (caps off) He is not on the property yet - fact.

 

[PurpleInMEM]

Our culture is a big issue here. In order to protect it, we must have employees who want to be here. I don't wan't the guy sitting next to me to wishing he/she were somewhere else. He won't take as much pride in his/her job here.

culture? protect it? Come on man, it's a job not a religious experience.

You go with whomever hired you first. More than one to choose from? Then go with the one that works best for YOUR situation. The guy just asked a question.

 

[jhill]

Are you familiar with what it feels like to fly night cargo. I recently had an old acquaintance call. He has been at UPS for the last year. "The schedule is much more difficult than I expected. I hate going to work now." These were his statements. He had no previous cargo experience. Even though I believe that he is in a great spot, he lives in domicile, he really wanted the opportunity to fly at SWA. He now feels stuck at UPS. Sounds to me like a great place to be stuck.

He'll feel better when that big raise kicks in and he moves into that big new house. Then the schedule will still suck and the house payment will be bigger. So he's got that going for him, which is nice.

 

[Irishav8r]

If you were a new hire with less than a year of service at SWA and offered a job at Fed Ex would you go

Its up to you however, I wouldn't take any advice from anyone on this board. You have to know people at Fedex, why would you be asking here with all kinds of people with different agendas? Just my .02.

 

[slaquer5]

Its up to you however, I wouldn't take any advice from anyone on this board. You have to know people at Fedex, why would you be asking here with all kinds of people with different agendas? Just my .02.

Good question, I am guessing its because he is a JACK AZZ and no mater where he goes he will not be happy.

 

[bigakl]

this guy doesn't work at SWA. If he did he wouldn't be worried about his job security tied to fuel hedges. please.....

 

[Hpilot]

You're kidding right. He!! yes is the correct answer. FedEx=more time off, more pay, more stability, and best of all no passengers. I'll admit Southwest is a better place than where I work......well, mostly. FedEx though, come on guys get real.

 

[Muff-N-Man]

BTW, Fedex fly's day time too..

How long before you can do the day side, though. I'm sure that goes ultra-senior, doesn't it?

 

[Chewbacca]

FDX, more variety, see the world, box's will always need to be shipped.

 

[Purpled]

How long before you can do the day side, though. I'm sure that goes ultra-senior, doesn't it?

After about 6 months I would never have had to fly at night again. I'd have been going to crappy places like Great Falls and such, but it was day time.

You only have to be junior once, every other time is up to you.

I whole-heartedly agree with the recent post--don't listen to anybody on this board...stick with the guys that you know at each company, then sort through the bs and decide--if you even have the choice.

 

[zamabratt]

Go see the world and get paid.

 

[1stCivDiv]

Only my first month on the line was I forced to fly at night. The rest has been afternoon reserve. I was able to hold daytime lines at about month 5-6. This is riding the monkey panel. In the right seat it will go a little more senior but with all the movement lately shouldn't take anytime at all. If you decide to live here (MEM) then that is going to equal actually flying about 4 out of 15 days on reserve. So if you like the time off then giddy up. But if flying 15 days a month 4-6 legs a day more suits you then go to SWA...

 

[Jolly Roger]

Funny how this always breaks down along the lines of where the responder works... my dad can beat up your dad stuff. Unless you have worked at both, you will never know which one will better suit. Noone knows the future. I wouldn't leave either for the other, it's just like lane jumping in the store... usually doesn't work. Didn't you see the opening scene of Office Space?

The thing about being a professional pilot is that one day you will grow up and realize that what you fly or where you go just don't matter. You can always spend more than you make, no matter what the pay. There's a whole lot of things to do in life outside of aviation, and either of these jobs will give you time, flexibility, and sufficient money to enjoy it; don't waste it chasing the elusive perfect job. If you are the guy who would leave one for the other, unless it's a compelling personal factor such as location, you ought to take a good look at yourself because you are heading for a life of frustrating greener grass syndrome.

 

[Beechdriver32]

Dude, I think I agree with SWA/FO!

If you are really wondering where you should be, please go to FedEx. You will like it there. The worst decision you could make is stay and wonder what it would be like. In four years (or whenever) when SWA does something that you don't like, you'll be the guy who b!tches and moans about your 'one shot' that you passed up. You’ll be ‘that guy’ who spreads the negativity and brings everyone down. Please go and give FedEx a shot, cuz there a lot of guys who would love to be in your SWA shoes, and oh yeah, REALLY want to be here.

Either way, enjoy it. You have a wonderful opportunity and an awesome decision to make. Good Luck –BD32

The grass isn’t always greener…

 

[Slippery Mick]

If you were a new hire with less than a year of service at SWA and offered a job at Fed Ex would you go

I haven't read any of the replies to this post, and frankly I don't give a hoot, but I know a dude who wants to leave FedEx for SWA.

The grass is always greener...

 

[satpak77]

I haven't read any of the replies to this post, and frankly I don't give a hoot, but I know a dude who wants to leave FedEx for SWA.

The grass is always greener...

I think you should post some more links to the Japan pilot job website. You don't have enough listed on the forums yet.

 

[pipe]

O.K., just to paraphrase most of the responses on this thread:

FedEx guys: "We like it here. You can pretty much do whatever type of flying you want. Good luck".

SWA guys: "F you. Go to FedEx".

Did I miss anything?

PIPE

 

[Slippery Mick]

I think you should post some more links to the Japan pilot job website. You don't have enough listed on the forums yet.

Just tryin' to drum-up activity, bro.

 

[satpak77]

Just tryin' to drum-up activity, bro.

good

now stop posting and let the activity start

bro

 

[Jolly Roger]

O.K., just to paraphrase most of the responses on this thread:

FedEx guys: "We like it here. You can pretty much do whatever type of flying you want. Good luck".

SWA guys: "F you. Go to FedEx".

Did I miss anything?

PIPE

Read the question... if it were reversed, leave FEDEX for SWA, then responses would be different.