Who has left ASA for SkyWest?

[Dave Benjamin]

ALPA NATIONAL will spend alot of money if ALPA fails at skywest, and they take our airplanes and our flights, that will generate a SCAB list. So for career move for the skywest pilots might just be the left seat at SKywest,,,and thats all folks !!!!

There's only response to total idiots like this guy

This message is hidden because scarlet is on your ignore list.

Being non-union does not equate to being a scab. You need to talk to some of your grown up peers so you can avoid posts that embarass your colleagues.​

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[Mercyful Fate]

Maybe Skywest should just give ASA back to Delta...that would be a good thing right? Since you guys seem to think Skywest is such an evil company now. Im sure you will get exactly what you want from Delta.

 

[SkyNation]

Being non-union does not equate to being a scab.
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Good point. Nor does it equate to you being stupid, uninformed, too new to know any better, or naive.

Spicepilots,

just relax. don't you know that pilots at other airlines know how things at SkyWest work better than we do? Don't you know that they have a magic ALPA pin that they rub and it tells them the future? Don't you know that we have had it good for 30 plus years but now we're screwed?

flame on boys, flame on........

 

[rickair7777]

OK, so if I vote in alpa, how would the ASA & SKW negotiations be conducted? As a single pilot group vs. management? Or in a three-way round-table?

Also perhaps more importantly...I like SKW because of LOCATION, LOCATION, LOCATION. I can promise you that I would never, ever bid anything east of denver, for any amount of money, and a lot of guys here share my attitude. So with that being said, how would the seniority integration work?

I would need absolute assurance of an equitable list merger plan. DOH is not an option, It would have to be one-for-one thing kind of thing with some sort of fences. My personal life cannot deal with relocation to ATL.

Without ironclad assurances as to my domicile (and upgrade in that domicile) ALPA = DIVORCE!

So what is the plan on that, and how will it be assured?

 

[SSDD]

ASA has been a $hitty company with $********************ty management for most of its existence, but somehow they to blame it all on the Skywest pilots. I'm through apologizing or trying to understand ASA's problems. They have no clue as to the pilot/management dynamics at Skywest, all they know is their own crappy, lying management.

Its hard to unite and cooperate when you have idiots harping on you all the time. I will not fly your struck work, but the loss of airplanes and routes is on you.

 

[sweptback]

Also perhaps more importantly...I like SKW because of LOCATION, LOCATION, LOCATION. I can promise you that I would never, ever bid anything east of denver, for any amount of money, and a lot of guys here share my attitude. So with that being said, how would the seniority integration work?

I would need absolute assurance of an equitable list merger plan. DOH is not an option, It would have to be one-for-one thing kind of thing with some sort of fences. My personal life cannot deal with relocation to ATL.

Real easy. DOH + fences to prevent anybody from being displaced. This is a pretty common provision in a merger. Then in 2 or 3 years the fences come down and any pilot can bid any vacancy that their senority can hold. Nobody would lose their seat or current base, the only thing that would be affected would be future positions.

People on this board seem to have some sort of phobia that DOH will mean they'd lose their base and get displaced to ATL. That would not be a fair merger at all! But DOH needs to be a condition of the merger, otherwise the ASA pilots will get hosed even more then they're currently being hosed.

 

[Arrow11]

Real easy. DOH + fences to prevent anybody from being displaced. This is a pretty common provision in a merger. Then in 2 or 3 years the fences come down and any pilot can bid any vacancy that their senority can hold. Nobody would lose their seat or current base, the only thing that would be affected would be future positions.

People on this board seem to have some sort of phobia that DOH will mean they'd lose their base and get displaced to ATL. That would not be a fair merger at all! But DOH needs to be a condition of the merger, otherwise the ASA pilots will get hosed even more then they're currently being hosed.

So, instead of getting displaced now, a large number of SkyWest pilots would be displaced in 2-3 years time, when the fences come down and all the more senior ASA pilots based on DOH bid out of ATL. It's no wonder that no one at Skywest wants to merge, in fact I can't think of anything positive that a merger with ASA could offer. All the new hires at Skywest (many hundreds) would be screwed if DOH were to be implemented.

 

[sweptback]

So, instead of getting displaced now, a large number of SkyWest pilots would be displaced in 2-3 years time, when the fences come down and all the more senior ASA pilots based on DOH bid out of ATL. It's no wonder that no one at Skywest wants to merge, in fact I can't think of anything positive that a merger with ASA could offer. All the new hires at Skywest (many hundreds) would be screwed if DOH were to be implemented.

No. That is incorrect -- you did not read what I wrote.

The only positions that people could bid on would be VACANCIES. There would be no displacements!

PS -- I'm not worried about newhires. They hired on after the purchase of ASA was complete and should have known what they were getting into (actually anybody hired after 9/15/05 at either company should have known what they were getting into).

 

[Gr82Aviate]

Good point. Nor does it equate to you being stupid, uninformed, too new to know any better, or naive.

Spicepilots,

just relax. don't you know that pilots at other airlines know how things at SkyWest work better than we do? Don't you know that they have a magic ALPA pin that they rub and it tells them the future? Don't you know that we have had it good for 30 plus years but now we're screwed?

flame on boys, flame on........

Yeah, and you've been here for what??? 11/2 of those 30 plus years and have all the answers?????

 

[It will roll]

Hey, dont mean to pose a naive question here but something I dont understand is, everyone so far seems to associate ALPA at SkyWest with a merger with ASA. Why would possible future SkyWest ALPA induce a merger if they are seperate companies now?