Young Only! Old Need Not Read!

[clickclickboom]

Is it That Bad?

Yea, and I will be working as the captain when that old bsturd next to me dies. Plus right now, I have to watch these old bsturds like a hawk and point out all those items they are missing that threaten the flight because they are asleep at the wheel or just CANT REMEMBER WHAT THEY NEED TO DO THAT THEY FORGOT FROM SCHOOL OR JUST HEARD ON THE RADIO OR READ.

Lucky

Sounds like you need to contact your safety department and file a report

 

[AFcitrus]

Why stop at 65 or 67, why not let pilots fly until they can no longer walk to the airplane. Actually, then we could drive them up to the side of the aircraft and lift them with a K-loader into the L-1 door. I mean, we don't want to discriminate based on age or anything. Far be it for safety to get in the way of political correctness.

Okay, actually I don't have a problem with it provided the following limits are placed on them:

- No you can't fly all night with the thunderstorm and overhead flood lights on so you can see your charts.

- You can't drop trips after viewing the weather channel and seeing that an instrument approach is going to be required on the next three legs.

- You must acknowledge that there is another pilot in the aircraft.

- You will be required to take monthly CRM tests.

Sorry, I haven't had my daily allowance of sarcasm yet.

Incidentally, if pilots flying beyond 60 is so safe for the flying public, why will there be a requirement for the other pilot to be less than 60. Shouldn't both pilots be ready and able to take-over the aircraft and land it safely in the event of pilot incapacitation.

Makes you say "mmmmm".

 

[FlierDude]

Plus right now, I have to watch these old bsturds like a hawk and point out all those items they are missing that threaten the flight because they are asleep at the wheel or just CANT REMEMBER WHAT THEY NEED TO DO THAT THEY FORGOT FROM SCHOOL OR JUST HEARD ON THE RADIO OR READ.

The passengers on your flight are truly blessed to have your egotistical a$$ on board to save them from certain doom. Junior.

May a UAV takes your job just before upgrade.

.

 

[typhoonpilot]

First let me say that I'll go as soon as I can, but at age 40 with 8 years of furlough and a stolen pension under my belt I would like the option to continue past age 60 if need be. I don't even work for a U.S. airline so I'll probably have that option anyway, but I wouldn't mind coming back to the States and having the option. This assuming that I even make it to age 60 in the first place. This long haul, night flying stuff ages you fast.

Oh, and to Luckytohaveajob, my 777 is bigger than your 777, nanner nanner nanner.


TP

 

[mdanno808]

I'll give you all my 2 cents. I'm 27, have been furloughed, and will see my pension go long before I retire. I'm currently flying for a supplemental, being JA'd for a living, and earning a fairly pathetic living. I am one of the fortunate, in that I am a young man, who is able to plan for a 401K, Roth IRA, non-pension retirement. I truly hope by the time I am 60, I am prepared for retirement, because God knows I'm gonna be ready to take a break. That being said, I find it hard to fault those who have found themselves robbed of their pension, and their paycheck's with less than 10 years till retirement, for wanting to extend their careers another 5 years. It will suck for me, and my upgrade time, but I won't hold it against the guy's who don't want to fly a corporate jet after retirement, just to survive until they are able to collect social security. BTW, don't bother correcting my spelling. I just got back from my daughters first birthday party, and have had a few drinks. (spent most of my pay check this month on the food and alcohol. How's that for retirement planning)

 

[Wingsweep]

My Compromise

I'm against this law until I turn 59. Then I'm all for it! WS

 

[Tejas-Jet]

Plus right now, I have to watch these old bsturds like a hawk and point out all those items they are missing that threaten the flight because they are asleep at the wheel or just CANT REMEMBER WHAT THEY NEED TO DO THAT THEY FORGOT FROM SCHOOL OR JUST HEARD ON THE RADIO OR READ.

HAve you taken the time to talk to these individuals about their poor performance? Have you taken this problem to your professional standards? Or to your Chief Pilot?

Can you tell us what you have done to improve this situation?

Tejas

 

[N2264J]

Re: Young Only! Old Need Not Read!

Plus right now, I have to watch these old bsturds like a hawk and point out all those items they are missing that threaten the flight because they are asleep at the wheel or just CANT REMEMBER WHAT THEY NEED TO DO THAT THEY FORGOT FROM SCHOOL OR JUST HEARD ON THE RADIO OR READ.

Are you talking about Delta pilots?

...Delta pilots?

Blasphemy!

 

[pilotyip]

Hey all you union guys, you run your companies, the young are in the majority so make it part of your contract. Full retirement at age 55, wow that would get rid of all those guys bewteen 55 and 60. Talk about fast upgrades.

 

[FlyBoeingJets]

Ninidiri---Must be nice collecting your first pension and now flying a CRJ for a paid hobby. Unlike you, I am working on my first career and getting the shaft by double dippers like you ######## this profession up.

And even if your not a double dipper-- why are you so interest in changing the established system that would hurt so many furloughed, junior, borderline captains, and borderline lineholders from getting what everyone that is wanting this to change now is pushing for?

Your the radicial pushing for the change! I am the old guard keeping the status quo and hoping nothing changes.

Lucky,

I'm in the late 30's. Not young but not old...Yet.

The issue you speak of is real. Apparently it brings out the worst in all of us. All should be aware of the ramificaitons of over 60 flying and adjust their decision making appropriately. But I refuse to get pissed off about it. It's not worth it.

America has a history of beating up on the older worker. Some might say this has kept America strong. Are we headed for decline as a nation as we get older and change the rules?? I hope not.

I will not constantly point out the failures of the old Captains. My job is to support the Captain and be a safety observer. And I will not make fun of the wet behind the ear FO's either. Take the high road and you will make the world a better place.