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100LL... Again! said:
Wow. What a bunch of simpletons. Anyone who thinks the president has any real effect on the economy is a flaming idiot.

I do not credit Bush with any good news nor charge him with any bad news regarding the economy. The economy is what it is, and it is largely uncontrollable.

You people would try to Blame Bush (tm) for a cloudy day.

The president, whomever he may be, always serves as a convenient scapegoat for the complaint du jour. How many of you on the left blame Clinton for the dotcom bust that "OCURRED UNDER HIS WATCH" (a favorite melodromatic term from the left)?

Get a life and get an education, or you will continue to be manipulated by fallacious logic.

Idiots on both sides.

I'm sorry your right he is doing a great job.
 
D.sanchez said:
Oh, like Bush taking 2 month vacations in Crawford every year? Bush can't even defend us against hurricaine damage. What exactly did Bush do about Bin Laden during the first 9 months in his presidency...? Nothing, not a dang thing. Did he catch Bin Laden after 9/11? Nope, more time has lapsed as of today since 9/11 than the time of America's involvement in World War 2, and we still don't have the guy that caused 9/11 killed or captured..

Are you serious? One of your expectations of the President of the United States is to defend the country from hurricane damage?

I'm relieved the odds in favor of you not being a registered and participating voter are high.
 
CKJET said:
I'm sorry your right he is doing a great job.

And you prove his point. He refutes some of your arguments and you resort to sarcasm. It's typical of the Blame Bush (tm) crowd. Attack, attack, attack, respond with shrill generalities, have no ideas of your own, and believe everything you read on Daily Kos and DU. Read the daily talking points on democrats.org, stick your fingers in your ears, and yell yell yell. Create controversy where there is none.

Say what you will, but the talking heads on the right were never this bad, even during the height of Clinton's impeachment.

Anyway, it looks like we need another "domestic spying" scandal. That should serve to push Bush's approval ratings back up to 60%.
 
B6Guy said:
I was pointing out that your comment does not reflect the realities of having a 'surplus' and having a 'deficit'. It's easy to run a surplus when you have large tax revenues and cut way back on defense. It's very difficult to not have a deficit when tax revenues drop because of recession and you have to fight a war and defend ourselves.

Your above quoted comment has nothing to do with Greenspan and the economics of interest rates or deals under the table.

You figure it out.


Dude, I don't know how big the critter was that climbed up your leg and into your fecal dispenser, but you need to chill out and lay off the mind altering drugs. You jumped on this thread with a total lack of decorum and a tenuous grasp of the facts.

Alright, here's my first link that I've posted on this thread: http://library.nps.navy.mil/home/defense%20bills-98-756.pdf
Compare the numbers and you aren't going to see as much of a ramp-up as you expected. And considering that dubya's been waging wars (and now post-war occupation), that would account for increases seen under dubya (along with inflation). And please tell me that you realize that senior Bush programmed in defense cuts in the 5 year POM due to the end of the cold war.

What previous quote? I didn't use a quote in my prior posts.

I would suggest that you research your off the wall premises prior to making posts here; it'll save you the humiliation of being proven wrong. Perhaps the Colonel (Jay B) over there at JetBlue can educate you on defense outlays and the POM process. He was a bit of a harda$$ on active duty, but was definitely an awesome stick (during the few times I flew with him) and knew his $hit, unlike you. Carry on, cliff claven.
 
Reread it yourself

I quoted your comment. Reread it. I was responding to your comment and I quoted it. Get it???

Humiliated? You should be, I'm certainly not. Personal attacks and name calling are childish. Go back to your play room and play.

Check your PM's

B6Guy
 
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Are you serious? One of your expectations of the President of the United States is to defend the country from hurricane damage?

As the chief executive, the President is responsible for disaster preparedness and heads FEMA, the Army Corps of Engineers and other agencies which were dismal failures in New Orleans. In this post 9/11 world, I hold the President directly responsible for our nation's ability to handle a disaster- either from hurricaines or terrorists. Why MAGUM, is that so hard for you to understand? BTW, I do vote.
 
D.sanchez said:
As the chief executive, the President is responsible for disaster preparedness and heads FEMA, the Army Corps of Engineers and other agencies which were dismal failures in New Orleans. In this post 9/11 world, I hold the President directly responsible for our nation's ability to handle a disaster- either from hurricaines or terrorists. Why MAGUM, is that so hard for you to understand? BTW, I do vote.

In your post 9/11 world, what responsibilities, if any, do you assign to your local and state officials? Somehow I think had the response to Katrina been stellar, you and your like-minded cohorts would have ascribed all kudos to local and state (Democrat) officials.

Perhaps I'd understand your position better if you didn't say such preposterous and outlandish statements. Saying the chief executive is responsible for defending against acts of nature is a large expansion of presidential responsibility (hence, power)....which is something I thought nobody wanted "this president" to have. Why, Sachez, is that so hard for you to understand?
 
lets be honest and not sugar coat this, FEMA bungled the Katrina response.

Katrina was depicted a week ahead of time via satellite images, and even 1 week out, the LA/Miss coast was the likely target

FEMA, working under Brown, a Bush appointee, bungled this.

The buck stops at Bush. If a career emergency response worker or similar credentials was at the top, instead of a horse judge who was the college roomate to someone on Bush's campaign, we may have had another response.

Bush is a moron

oh yeah, I am a Republican
 
satpak77 said:
lets be honest and not sugar coat this, FEMA bungled the Katrina response.

Katrina was depicted a week ahead of time via satellite images, and even 1 week out, the LA/Miss coast was the likely target

FEMA, working under Brown, a Bush appointee, bungled this.

The buck stops at Bush. If a career emergency response worker or similar credentials was at the top, instead of a horse judge who was the college roomate to someone on Bush's campaign, we may have had another response.

Bush is a moron

oh yeah, I am a Republican

Nobody said the response to Katrina was good.

There are some unrealistic expectations of FEMA's authority and abilities, regardless of who was in at the top.

Brown was a horrible appointee.

Bush has a Harvard MBA. His grades at Yale were better than Kerry's. He was a fighter pilot. You may disagree with some, many, or all of his decisions, but the man ain't stupid. But, if it makes you feel better to join the chorus, by all means....
 
Little bush's response to Katrina was bad his response to 9/11 was bad his response to his simple duties in the ChickenHawk squadron of the ANG were bad. The boy has not had an original idea in his life and the effort would probably cause his head to explode. His handlers have learned a little from poppy bush though, While destroying the pensions and careers of many US pilots, there carefull not to actually allow the companies to fail. A lot of those unemployed Eastern, PanAm and Braniff pilots voted to retire poppy.
In regard to a presidents ability to control the economy or damage from some natural disaster, lets stick to empirical evidence. The hurricane that destroyed southern Florida was delt with adequitely, Katrina wasn't. The fight in the Balkans was handled in a competant manner, Iraq wasn't. The economy was great in the 90's, so far the new century isn't looking too good.
 

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