Yield Curve Inverts

[CKJET]

Wow. What a bunch of simpletons. Anyone who thinks the president has any real effect on the economy is a flaming idiot.

I do not credit Bush with any good news nor charge him with any bad news regarding the economy. The economy is what it is, and it is largely uncontrollable.

You people would try to Blame Bush (tm) for a cloudy day.

The president, whomever he may be, always serves as a convenient scapegoat for the complaint du jour. How many of you on the left blame Clinton for the dotcom bust that "OCURRED UNDER HIS WATCH" (a favorite melodromatic term from the left)?

Get a life and get an education, or you will continue to be manipulated by fallacious logic.

Idiots on both sides.

I'm sorry your right he is doing a great job.

 

[stonewall]

Oh, like Bush taking 2 month vacations in Crawford every year? Bush can't even defend us against hurricaine damage. What exactly did Bush do about Bin Laden during the first 9 months in his presidency...? Nothing, not a dang thing. Did he catch Bin Laden after 9/11? Nope, more time has lapsed as of today since 9/11 than the time of America's involvement in World War 2, and we still don't have the guy that caused 9/11 killed or captured..

Are you serious? One of your expectations of the President of the United States is to defend the country from hurricane damage?

I'm relieved the odds in favor of you not being a registered and participating voter are high.

 

[stonewall]

I'm sorry your right he is doing a great job.

And you prove his point. He refutes some of your arguments and you resort to sarcasm. It's typical of the Blame Bush (tm) crowd. Attack, attack, attack, respond with shrill generalities, have no ideas of your own, and believe everything you read on Daily Kos and DU. Read the daily talking points on democrats.org, stick your fingers in your ears, and yell yell yell. Create controversy where there is none.

Say what you will, but the talking heads on the right were never this bad, even during the height of Clinton's impeachment.

Anyway, it looks like we need another "domestic spying" scandal. That should serve to push Bush's approval ratings back up to 60%.

 

[Andy]

I was pointing out that your comment does not reflect the realities of having a 'surplus' and having a 'deficit'. It's easy to run a surplus when you have large tax revenues and cut way back on defense. It's very difficult to not have a deficit when tax revenues drop because of recession and you have to fight a war and defend ourselves.

Your above quoted comment has nothing to do with Greenspan and the economics of interest rates or deals under the table.

You figure it out.

Dude, I don't know how big the critter was that climbed up your leg and into your fecal dispenser, but you need to chill out and lay off the mind altering drugs. You jumped on this thread with a total lack of decorum and a tenuous grasp of the facts.

Alright, here's my first link that I've posted on this thread: http://library.nps.navy.mil/home/defense%20bills-98-756.pdf
Compare the numbers and you aren't going to see as much of a ramp-up as you expected. And considering that dubya's been waging wars (and now post-war occupation), that would account for increases seen under dubya (along with inflation). And please tell me that you realize that senior Bush programmed in defense cuts in the 5 year POM due to the end of the cold war.

What previous quote? I didn't use a quote in my prior posts.

I would suggest that you research your off the wall premises prior to making posts here; it'll save you the humiliation of being proven wrong. Perhaps the Colonel (Jay B) over there at JetBlue can educate you on defense outlays and the POM process. He was a bit of a harda$$ on active duty, but was definitely an awesome stick (during the few times I flew with him) and knew his $hit, unlike you. Carry on, cliff claven.

 

[B6Guy]

Reread it yourself

I quoted your comment. Reread it. I was responding to your comment and I quoted it. Get it???

Humiliated? You should be, I'm certainly not. Personal attacks and name calling are childish. Go back to your play room and play.

Check your PM's

B6Guy

 

[D.sanchez]

Are you serious? One of your expectations of the President of the United States is to defend the country from hurricane damage?

As the chief executive, the President is responsible for disaster preparedness and heads FEMA, the Army Corps of Engineers and other agencies which were dismal failures in New Orleans. In this post 9/11 world, I hold the President directly responsible for our nation's ability to handle a disaster- either from hurricaines or terrorists. Why MAGUM, is that so hard for you to understand? BTW, I do vote.

 

[stonewall]

As the chief executive, the President is responsible for disaster preparedness and heads FEMA, the Army Corps of Engineers and other agencies which were dismal failures in New Orleans. In this post 9/11 world, I hold the President directly responsible for our nation's ability to handle a disaster- either from hurricaines or terrorists. Why MAGUM, is that so hard for you to understand? BTW, I do vote.

In your post 9/11 world, what responsibilities, if any, do you assign to your local and state officials? Somehow I think had the response to Katrina been stellar, you and your like-minded cohorts would have ascribed all kudos to local and state (Democrat) officials.

Perhaps I'd understand your position better if you didn't say such preposterous and outlandish statements. Saying the chief executive is responsible for defending against acts of nature is a large expansion of presidential responsibility (hence, power)....which is something I thought nobody wanted "this president" to have. Why, Sachez, is that so hard for you to understand?

 

[satpak77]

lets be honest and not sugar coat this, FEMA bungled the Katrina response.

Katrina was depicted a week ahead of time via satellite images, and even 1 week out, the LA/Miss coast was the likely target

FEMA, working under Brown, a Bush appointee, bungled this.

The buck stops at Bush. If a career emergency response worker or similar credentials was at the top, instead of a horse judge who was the college roomate to someone on Bush's campaign, we may have had another response.

Bush is a moron

oh yeah, I am a Republican

 

[stonewall]

lets be honest and not sugar coat this, FEMA bungled the Katrina response.

Katrina was depicted a week ahead of time via satellite images, and even 1 week out, the LA/Miss coast was the likely target

FEMA, working under Brown, a Bush appointee, bungled this.

The buck stops at Bush. If a career emergency response worker or similar credentials was at the top, instead of a horse judge who was the college roomate to someone on Bush's campaign, we may have had another response.

Bush is a moron

oh yeah, I am a Republican

Nobody said the response to Katrina was good.

There are some unrealistic expectations of FEMA's authority and abilities, regardless of who was in at the top.

Brown was a horrible appointee.

Bush has a Harvard MBA. His grades at Yale were better than Kerry's. He was a fighter pilot. You may disagree with some, many, or all of his decisions, but the man ain't stupid. But, if it makes you feel better to join the chorus, by all means....

 

[maru657]

Little bush's response to Katrina was bad his response to 9/11 was bad his response to his simple duties in the ChickenHawk squadron of the ANG were bad. The boy has not had an original idea in his life and the effort would probably cause his head to explode. His handlers have learned a little from poppy bush though, While destroying the pensions and careers of many US pilots, there carefull not to actually allow the companies to fail. A lot of those unemployed Eastern, PanAm and Braniff pilots voted to retire poppy.
In regard to a presidents ability to control the economy or damage from some natural disaster, lets stick to empirical evidence. The hurricane that destroyed southern Florida was delt with adequitely, Katrina wasn't. The fight in the Balkans was handled in a competant manner, Iraq wasn't. The economy was great in the 90's, so far the new century isn't looking too good.

 

[stonewall]

When you throw out stupid stuff like "little bush" and "poppy" people stop listening to you. Chickenhawk? March your a** down to the TX ANG and call 'em that.

Fight in the Balkans handled well? How? The "steady drumbeat" to war in the Balkans bypassed the UN. Ms Maddy f'ed that whole thing up from the beginning. What makes you think it was handled well? Did you participate? Case study? Or is that just part of the Talking Points?

Further, since you like empirical evidence, just google some basics about the economy in 2006. Seems like its doing well to me, and forecasts are great.

Credit Jeb for the responses to the Florida hurricanes. Having gone through four of them while living in FL, the man did a great job for the past three years. Contrast that with Nagin and Blanco.

I know, I know...it's much easier to just blame Bush. I wouldn't expect any less from the intellectually lazy (and dishonest). Later

 

[stonewall]

It's amazing how many people consider FOX to be their only reliable news source!

Finally! I've been trying to track down someone who knows that FoxNews reports factually inaccurate news items. You seem to be the guy. Please point me in the right direction so I can prove to all my friends that FoxNews reports things that aren't true.

I also remember that time FoxNews struck a deal with Hussein limiting negative news coverage of Saddam's government in return for being allowed "access" and being allowed to keep their Baghdad station open. Oh, wait a sec...that wasn't FoxNews was it? Maybe you can help me out with the answer to that one.

 

[ASA Captain]

Ok. I'll bite.

The 9/11 Commission Summed it up pretty well. F = Failure

9/11 is supposedly Bush's shining moment. Its the one time America was behind him. National Security is his strongest polling point still. Why? Because ignorant americans think that just because we haven't had an attack since 9/11, that Bush solved the problem. "We will fight them over there..."

The 9/11 Commission, a bipartisan focus group, gave Bush and this congress a failing grade on protecting America from another attack. We have cockpit doors. It probably won't be another airliner, but we are not immune and not any more secure than on 9/10/01.

Why did Bush not focus on real national security? Why the tax cuts? Why aren't we asking all americans to sacrifice? Why not the draft? Bush opposed the creation of the DHS. He opposed the 9/11 commission.

What will americans think of Bush if we have a significant attack again? I hope we don't find out.

 

[PCL_128]

That would take one big Dike.

Hillary?

ROTFLMAO!! Classic.

 

[Andy]

I quoted your comment. Reread it. I was responding to your comment and I quoted it. Get it???

Humiliated? You should be, I'm certainly not. Personal attacks and name calling are childish. Go back to your play room and play.

Check your PM's

B6Guy

Let me get this straight. Your first response was, and I quote: "You must be pretty amusing to watch balance your checkbook." I guess that you don't see that as a personal attack. If you can't take it, don't dish it out.
As for your PM to me, all I can say is that you're a jerk. My sympathies to the good people at JetBlue who have to work with you.

 

[73-Driver]

Finally! I've been trying to track down someone who knows that FoxNews reports factually inaccurate news items. You seem to be the guy. Please point me in the right direction so I can prove to all my friends that FoxNews reports things that aren't true.

Magnum,
You are doing a fine job on your own proving my point with all of your posts! Keep up the good work. Bush and O'Reilly would be Proud.

BTW....Happy Holidays!

 

[satpak77]

Magnum

stop drinking the cool aid

Bush is a moron.

 

[Dan Roman]

Frankly, Im amazed anyone could think Bush is doing a good job. After 9/11 going into Afganastan and effectivly attacking the terrorists were they were hiding was a good thing. Going into Iraq has created a breeding ground for terrorists that did not exist before. THEY WERE IN NO WAY A THREAT TO US. They are now and will be for a long time. AND he truly hurt our credibilty with the rest of the world, a world we have to live in I might add.
This incredibily inept handling of the New Orleans disaster personified by the biggest idiot that ever made a news headline (Brown) is just the tip of the iceberg. The Republican "If I have mine it's OK" mentality is what is going to be our downfall. The cronyism that exists in this administration is appalling. Millions of Americans are losing everything they haved worked a lifetime for. Good people in all walks of life have lost pensions, careers, health care etc. a select few have made millions, not because they were particulary smart or contributing anything to society, they just happened to be the most cutthroat. America grew strong on Corporate America, Corporate America is crumbling due to the greed of a few at the expense of millions.

 

[Halo_RJdriver]

Sorry left pole smoking liberals I must side with MAgNum.

The sole reason we were attacked and invaded by dirty bums in nightshirts, is because Clitwad bill and rainbow hillary cut our intelligence to scraps and made a mockery of our homeland. JFK or any other old School dem would never let our borders, language and culture turn to mush like slick willy did.

Our defense programs along with homeland security and Fema all were shredded under Clitwank. Its ok if it makes you feel better to blame Bush, who cares. IT just makes you look even more simpleton than you are.

The levies mr Sancheese were old and only maintained to hold around 15' of water. Clitwad never reinforced or improved them. Blame Bush.

Congrats Mr. Pres. You just took office. Its time to Re-Arm the USA, stop aids, stop Hurricanes (LMAO), fix Fema, stop hate crimes, FIx the ailing Economy that was left by the "draft dodging chimp Clitwank" and meanwhile wipe Andy and Sancheese a@@'s. Oh and let my family live on welfare for another 3 generations. Bill would go.

Get real people, stop blaming others especially a President that has thrown not only $$ but resources towards improving the USA. JFK would have done the same thing, or any other old school Dem that believed in the USA. THE DNC sure has become a mockery since Bildoe and HIllary f'ed it up and continue to do so. JFK would have Bills Nutz on a grill by now. Until the people stop yielding to the DNC and the RNC and get another 2 or 3 real new parties involved this country is headed for dire straits. The pan handling to special interest groups is what controls both parties, like it or not.

INDEPENDENT

 

[Dan Roman]

Interesting response when you consider people are needlessly being killed and maimed in Iraq and millions of Americans are losing everything they worked for while a handful are getting rich.