XO Jet Hawkers

[Jack Mehoff]

I was curious what avionics the Hawkers at XO Jet have up front. Can any XO guys answer?

 

[propsarebest]

the crappy kind.

 

[brokeflyer]

I was curious what avionics the Hawkers at XO Jet have up front. Can any XO guys answer?

ask netjets

 

[billybob]

Don't ask the proline guys! Ask about the 2 they have parked!

 

[cldsfr79]

I was curious what avionics the Hawkers at XO Jet have up front. Can any XO guys answer?

They have the old Honeywell avionics because many of their Hawkers came from NJ. We sold off our old high time 800s that were starting to have lots of mx issues.

We did the same with dozen+ Citation X that XO jet bought.

An interesting story I heard about 6 months ago was an XO "X" had to do an emergency landing in New Mexico(?) due to an electrical problem. Another X was ferried in to pick up the pax, but that plane went down for maintenance when they landed. So a third X was brought in. Hope those weren't NJ's beat up hand-me-downs that XO jet painted and refurbished and then turned around a charted them out at a bargain basement prices.

 

[NJAowner]

Age of Xs

Not that facts should ever get in the way of FlightInfo posts, but cldfsr the XOJet X flett in much younger than NJA. Based upon a a rough look of the FAA database, NJA has old 6 X's that are model year 2204 or newer (representing 10% of the 59 X's I found registered to NJA), vs. 11 XOJets of the same age repreenting 53% of its fleet. IN fact 84% of NJA's fleet is 2002 or older (17 2002s, 15 2001s, 9 2000s, and 9 from last century). Once upon a time NJA advertised it had the newest fleet in the business but that was a long time ago.

And be careful of what you say, becuase just a few months before XOJet repainted and refurbished them, NJ was flying them beat up, unrefurbished, in what ever condition they were in, but charged premium prices for it, and told and billed owners for refubishing the jets every 3-4 years but sytretched that to 8 years.

 

[nordo_2]

Not that facts should ever get in the way of FlightInfo posts, but cldfsr the XOJet X flett in much younger than NJA. Based upon a a rough look of the FAA database, NJA has old 6 X's that are model year 2204 or newer (representing 10% of the 59 X's I found registered to NJA), vs. 11 XOJets of the same age repreenting 53% of its fleet. IN fact 84% of NJA's fleet is 2002 or older (17 2002s, 15 2001s, 9 2000s, and 9 from last century). Once upon a time NJA advertised it had the newest fleet in the business but that was a long time ago.

And be careful of what you say, becuase just a few months before XOJet repainted and refurbished them, NJ was flying them beat up, unrefurbished, in what ever condition they were in, but charged premium prices for it, and told and billed owners for refubishing the jets every 3-4 years but sytretched that to 8 years.

Damn dog! That’s harsh!

 

[NJAowner]

Sorry for many typos -- I did not have time to proof and can't figure out how to go back to it.

 

[propsarebest]

Don't ask the proline guys! Ask about the 2 they have parked!

The HS125 fleet is often parked on non peak days because it is cheaper to have them sit than to fly a crappy FRG-BED trip. The Hawkers were purchased to take the short range stuff off the 300's and the X's and free them up for transcons.

 

[208starcheck]

Not that facts should ever get in the way of FlightInfo posts, but cldfsr the XOJet X flett in much younger than NJA. Based upon a a rough look of the FAA database, NJA has old 6 X's that are model year 2204 or newer (representing 10% of the 59 X's I found registered to NJA), vs. 11 XOJets of the same age repreenting 53% of its fleet. IN fact 84% of NJA's fleet is 2002 or older (17 2002s, 15 2001s, 9 2000s, and 9 from last century). Once upon a time NJA advertised it had the newest fleet in the business but that was a long time ago.

And be careful of what you say, becuase just a few months before XOJet repainted and refurbished them, NJ was flying them beat up, unrefurbished, in what ever condition they were in, but charged premium prices for it, and told and billed owners for refubishing the jets every 3-4 years but sytretched that to 8 years.

We get it already, you don't like NJA. Time to learn a new song.

 

[gret]

Facts are tough to face...when you want to live in the past.

 

[X-rated]

You guys are all so funny. You'll come on here and berate your individual companies for all sorts of short comings, but mention any other operator and all of a sudden you work for the best company that ever existed. Your pilots are the hardest working, best qualified and safest men and women to walk the earth since Skyking. It's like sports fans supporting their home-team club.

Here is a hint. You all do exactly the same job and pull from the same pool of pilots. Some hires are great, some are average, and some are below average. Every operator has it's strengths and weaknesses. None of these companies is perfect, so let the marketing departments spin the stories. Just fly your planes, do your best for your customers, and help out your fellow pilots regardless of who's uniform they wear.

Ok, I'm ready. Let me have it...

 

[rajflyboy]

You guys are all so funny. You'll come on here and berate your individual companies for all sorts of short comings, but mention any other operator and all of a sudden you work for the best company that ever existed. Your pilots are the hardest working, best qualified and safest men and women to walk the earth since Skyking. It's like sports fans supporting their home-team club.

Here is a hint. You all do exactly the same job and pull from the same pool of pilots. Some hires are great, some are average, and some are below average. Every operator has it's strengths and weaknesses. None of these companies is perfect, so let the marketing departments spin the stories. Just fly your planes, do your best for your customers, and help out your fellow pilots regardless of who's uniform they wear.

Ok, I'm ready. Let me have it...

Very true

 

[brokeflyer]

You guys are all so funny. You'll come on here and berate your individual companies for all sorts of short comings, but mention any other operator and all of a sudden you work for the best company that ever existed. Your pilots are the hardest working, best qualified and safest men and women to walk the earth since Skyking. It's like sports fans supporting their home-team club.

Here is a hint. You all do exactly the same job and pull from the same pool of pilots. Some hires are great, some are average, and some are below average. Every operator has it's strengths and weaknesses. None of these companies is perfect, so let the marketing departments spin the stories. Just fly your planes, do your best for your customers, and help out your fellow pilots regardless of who's uniform they wear.

Ok, I'm ready. Let me have it...

nah, I think that was well said.

 

[Helmsalee]

A couple of decades ago, that was the way it was in all levels of aviation. Don't think we will ever see that again.
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