WWYD NetJets or Delta?

[cessnapilot]

Here's the math I calculated for 12 years at each company.


I also did a comparison of the highest pay scales on their most senior aircraft. If it were possible to become a Delta 777 captain after 12 years, you would be earning $146,640/year base salary.
A 12 year NetJets BBJ captain would earn a base salary of $193, 670 + COLA. A Falcon 2000EX captain would earn $167,140 + COLA per year.
It looks like NetJets wins after 12 years.
Based on current pay scales, it doesn't seem to change much if you move to larger aircraft either. Unless Delta significanly raises their pay scale or NetJets upgrades come to a stop, I can't see this changing.

Upgrades will change. They always do. You only looked at the min reserve money for Delta. If someone holds a line and flys as a Capt on the 777, they probably earn more like $180k. Don't forget most flying is intl, and so there is a pay increase for that.

Its always difficult to look out 12 years. I would look at what type of flying you would rather do. I, personally, had a fun time in corp flying, but prefer part 121 at a major. Don't chase only money, but rather find something you enjoy doing that also pays well.

 

[Daytonaflyer]

Upgrades will change. They always do. You only looked at the min reserve money for Delta. If someone holds a line and flys as a Capt on the 777, they probably earn more like $180k. Don't forget most flying is intl, and so there is a pay increase for that.

Its always difficult to look out 12 years. I would look at what type of flying you would rather do. I, personally, had a fun time in corp flying, but prefer part 121 at a major. Don't chase only money, but rather find something you enjoy doing that also pays well.

Bingo!

 

[Freight Dog]

A concern with NJA is their FO pay - it's flat. So if stagnation happens, you're essentially S.O.L. with respect to making more money.

Having done some 91/135, I gotta say the flying is WAY better than 121.

 

[FoxJet]

Are you really going to make your decision based on us jokers at Flightinfo? Go to Netjets, here at Delta we hire people that can make decisions.

I mean really, you can't decide whether you want to throw bags on a Citation and ride around in the back of airliners all the time, always on reserve vs. a major airline career?

Pat Fabin,
I can't wait for the day your sitting as my F.O. at NetJets, I'll give you and Delta 4 years max before they furlough you and your begging for a job with us.

 

[Pat Fabin]

Whatever, Mr. Gold Seal CFI. Go back to watching your John & Martha King videos.

-PF

 

[GogglesPisano]

Pat Fabin,
I can't wait for the day your sitting as my F.O. at NetJets, I'll give you and Delta 4 years max before they furlough you and your begging for a job with us.

That's pretty crude. So I'll be crude, too. Some people, myself included, have always aspired to fly for a major airline. Everything else is just paying dues. The idea of being a boot-licking chauffer has no appeal to me (it obviously does to some people -- hey, you get to eat the leftover scaps from the catering right? uke: )

"Begging fo a job at Netjets." :laugh: Got to love it.

 

[RNObased]

That's pretty crude. So I'll be crude, too. Some people, myself included, have always aspired to fly for a major airline. Everything else is just paying dues. The idea of being a boot-licking chauffer has no appeal to me (it obviously does to some people -- hey, you get to eat the leftover scaps from the catering right? uke: )

"Begging fo a job at Netjets." :laugh: Got to love it.

Ahh, Delta Pilots a very classy bunch of guys. Goggles, why don't you take your boy Fabin and go back to the majors portion of the board. That way you can discuss commuting, and ways you can improve that settlar service you guys provide on Delta. Have you ever thought that the idea of being a bus driver has no appeal to some people??? As does eating the idea of eating the crap that you serve to the people in first, and therefore to your a$$. I see that now, you are out of bankruptcy that old Delta charm is coming back. Loser.

 

[Fozzy]

Everything else is just paying dues. The idea of being a boot-licking chauffer has no appeal to me (it obviously does to some people -- hey, you get to eat the leftover scaps from the catering right?

Hey at least we get food. And a retirement plan. Oh ya and great medical benefits.
As for the boot licking, well your group is in NO position to throw stones.

 

[niteflyr]

Amazing how quick that Delta "charm" came back after they are out of BK. I worked 130 days last year and never once had to lick any boots, and I am satisfied with my own catered meals so I have yet to eat any scraps. Whatever you guys have to keep telling yourselves about our job to make you feel better, even if it is far from the truth.

Oh yeah, and how long will you have to be out of the "pool" to break the 120K per year mark? I did it last year (year 6), and my 401K broke the 120K mark the same time! How's that for coincidence?

 

[johnsonrod]

Amazing how quick that Delta "charm" came back after they are out of BK. I worked 130 days last year and never once had to lick any boots, and I am satisfied with my own catered meals so I have yet to eat any scraps. Whatever you guys have to keep telling yourselves about our job to make you feel better, even if it is far from the truth.

Oh yeah, and how long will you have to be out of the "pool" to break the 120K per year mark? I did it last year (year 6), and my 401K broke the 120K mark the same time! How's that for coincidence?

I wouldn't paint every Delta pilot like that. I know plenty of great Delta pilots who don't feel that way.

 

[Diesel]

Hey lets just all hope the airlines raise the price of a ticket 5 bucks so they can somehow breakeven on that flight from jfk to oma. Oh wait fuel prices going up? Hope someone hedged their fuel price because thats going to really affect the bottom line.

 

[FoxJet]

Whatever, Mr. Gold Seal CFI. Go back to watching your John & Martha King videos.

-PF

Find a sense of humor, this avatar is me making fun of guys like you. You know the type, because I'm sure your one of them. Cowboy Boots, mustache, an aviation license plate, tell people your a pilot before you tell them your name.

I understand why you all couldn't work for a fractional or corporate. You want to walk on to the airplane turn left and lock the door. Its similar to the days when you were a kid. Walked home locked yourself in your room and played Dungeons and Dragons. Fantastic, social skills! Be truthful, its not that you want to fly for the majors because its obvious to anyone that such glory is a thing of the past. It's that your afraid to rub elbows with the people that run this world. You and I both know they will instantly see through your thin facade. Dont blame me blame your mother

 

[Fozzy]

Hey lets just all hope the airlines raise the price of a ticket 5 bucks so they can somehow breakeven on that flight from jfk to oma.

Ahh wait, that would be an RJ on that route. :laugh:

 

[theskyking]

That's pretty crude. So I'll be crude, too. Some people, myself included, have always aspired to fly for a major airline. Everything else is just paying dues. The idea of being a boot-licking chauffer has no appeal to me (it obviously does to some people -- hey, you get to eat the leftover scaps from the catering right? uke: )

"Begging fo a job at Netjets." :laugh: Got to love it.

Let's see, the last scraps I ate were right after I finished my catered grilled salmon I thought I might try one of the still wrapped filet mignon sandwiches that were untouched by the owner. I think my boot licking tongue felt just fine after that.

Keep your 121. It sucks. I'll be a chauffeur over a bus driver any day.

 

[Semore Butts]

Your boning me right?

The best food I've ever experienced in my life has been as a fractional pilot?

Grand Junction Colorado, 2 crew meals (I had a Cobb salad)

CAtering: 7 sea food plates

Passengers: 1 Lady, 1 Nanny, 3 kids, 2 "no shows".

I've never seen Scallops that big!

I've been (As most of you that know of me) have been back in the military deployed.

I can't wait to get back to the "scraps" at the Fractionals. What a great bunch of pilots at Netjets and Flexjet.

You 121 guys shouldn't "be hatin", you may end up at a Fractional one day saying "WTF was I thinking"?