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OUPilot01

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Seeing the continual degradation of the airline career including pay, benefits and prestige. Along with main line flying becoming increasing out sourced to the lowest bidder. Would you still have invested all the time and money into aviation, if the salary of a regional captain was the most you would ever make as a pilot. Hypothetically speaking if there was no majors (SWA, FEDEX, Delta....ect) and the highest paid pilots made $60-70 bucks and hour.

I have always wondered how many would still fly as a career if the most you would top out at is regional captain pay. .
 

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I would not.

Given the technical demands and skills required, level of responsilbility, time/resources required to get to that level of aviation, and the sacrifices required in terms of time away from home/demands of family life/erratic schedule, the airline career, whether at a major or regional airline, is well deserving of premium pay.

I've taken a long-term leave of absence from my job at a major primarily due to the uneven trade off between pay/time away from home.
 

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booo hoooo

you guys got trained for a career that has stunk since........ I'm going to say the 1980s. So if its a revelation that pilots work lots of hours for not much pay you are an idiot.

I enjoyed my training but figured out around the age of 21 that it wasn't going to be much of a job.

Sigh.... At least I have high speed internet and two giant monitors at my desk. And I have enough $$ to fly around for fun.
 

OUPilot01

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I have to agree with you. In just the past ten years I have been doing this there has been a drastically different shift in how long you are at a regional. Flight schools need to be telling prospective students the reality of the career. It astounds me how many people just starting off in this career keep pointing to the majors as what they expect to be making after a "couple" years at a regional. Sadly based off the current trend of the industry you may very well spend close to half your career at a regional. Going to the majors is like playing musical chairs every year there is more and more participants while someone keeps taking away the chairs.
 

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Flight schools are still telling the lie of the "Vietnam era" mass exodus of pilots and basically lying to fill the training class. I tell prospective students to stay away. This industry is dead, 50-100K AYFC??
 

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booo hoooo

you guys got trained for a career that has stunk since........ I'm going to say the 1980s. So if its a revelation that pilots work lots of hours for not much pay you are an idiot.

I enjoyed my training but figured out around the age of 21 that it wasn't going to be much of a job.

Sigh.... At least I have high speed internet and two giant monitors at my desk. And I have enough $$ to fly around for fun.

Whoopty dooo... Good for you.

Go back to your Flight Sim game and leave the career talk to the guys who are doing it. This here is man talk... No place for you in it.

But seriously, if you get off by jumping on FI and patting yourself on the back for making a "shrewd" career decision at 21, good for you. There is nothing here but bad luck and poor timing. If all of your buddies were knocking down 6 figures at FedEx than your prospective might be different. Or maybe not. Either way, you really have no place in this thread since you pussed out and never gave the career a real shot.

Now get back to those two killer computer screens doing whatever the hell it is you do.
 

777forever

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Yeah, 4 more years and there will be an exodus.

Hang on!

Completely agree. We saw exactly what was starting to happen before the FAA dropped the age 65 bomb and gas prices skyrocketed. The regionals had dropped minimums to the bare minimums and still couldn't get enough people. 4 more years and it will start all over again.

As far as doing it all over again I absolutely would. No doubt about it. The regionals is a 100k/yr job after 10 years. If you can't live comfortably on that, better start working on your basketball, acting, or rap skills.......
 

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Give it 2 or 3. We saw the beginning of one at Continental. We'll see more in a few years.
HAHA, don't lie to yourself, the boom is not close. Co was not close to a boom, also tell the 149 that it was a boom.
 

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I spent yesterday trying to complete 10 hours of errands in 5 hours.
After filing a complaint with my wife. She explained, every day, 5 days a week, 351 days per year is like that for her.
For me, flying airplanes for a living isn't so bad.
 
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What other line of work can someone like me make over $150,000 a year (still an F/O) with just a high school diploma.
 

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Yes and no.

Getting my ratings is one thing that I do not regret, and never will. I love flying, so I can't regret that. However, I don't know if I really understood the nature of the "regional" job--namely just how much time I would be gone. I enjoy the flying a great deal, and quite frankly it's the best job I've had so far, but all those 4-day trips begin to take their toll.

But then again, I don't know if I would have bothered to get my ratings if I wasn't planning on a regional job. I think the one thing that I would have done differently would be to finish a degree in something other than aviation--something I will soon remedy, but it would have been nice to have done it already.

In summary, I'll always be glad I got the ratings, but the shine has definitely come off the airline career.

-Goose
 

TurboAWD

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Not many FO's making 150k/yr these days. Especially w/o a HS diploma.

No, I would not do it again.

Turbo
 

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I've been flying pro for about 2 years now and I'm still not really sure if I'm at that state where being a pilot is paying me vs me paying to be a pilot. I'm hopping that very soon I'll be able to afford something more than ramen. Stay away, is what I say.
 

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I've been flying pro for about 2 years now and I'm still not really sure if I'm at that state where being a pilot is paying me vs me paying to be a pilot. I'm hopping that very soon I'll be able to afford something more than ramen. Stay away, is what I say.

2 years? C'mon you've gotta do better than that. Most pilots flight instruct for more than 2 years making less than $15K/yr.
Most major airline captains over the age of 40 had to work for close to 10 years before they could even get hired by a regional airline. Back in the early 90's the hiring mins for American Eagle were 9000+ hrs TT.

Realistically it won't start paying you back for 5-7 years minimum.
 
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