WN pilot terminated?

[scoreboardII]

I hope the culture is that strong. My point is mostly in reference to those who came to WN because they have been at the top of the pile (since 2001 or so), who perhaps would have gone to UAL or DAL had they not had their CBAs destroyed by bankruptcy. I think it speaks volumes about the culture of the workforce if they can provide the same positive environment even being mid-pack in terms of compensation and advancement. It's definitely a transitional period for WN in more ways than one.

Absolutely.

I think compensation isn't really the issue here, its more in line with seniority in seat and or upgrade times, which does have a monetary side, but upgrade also has quality of life which in todays flat market is a big decider.

 

[General Lee]

If this is true, then WN has much larger 'culture' problem than I ever imagined. How will those hired there in the last ten years handle it when they are no longer the top paid pilots in the industry? I suspect for many, the 'culture' might be only as lasting as having the largest paycheck and the 5ish year upgrade.

I agree with you. Many of the guys at the bottom who KNOW there will be stagnation may want to look around for something better, but this threat may have them feeling nervous. So much for the "LUV" culture.....


Bye Bye---General Lee

 

[Scoot 11]

General-
Don't you have another RJ to sellout?

Why? You gonna PFT to fly it again, sellout?

 

[waveflyer]

Why? You gonna PFT to fly it again, sellout?

Some disenfranchised pilot not on your seniority list will-

And when they do, as you put more and more pilots in that sh-tty position, remember it IS YOU, as the major airline pilot with a VOTE who allowed that whipsaw market to exist

 

[Ops check good]

Was thinking the same thing????

Never saw that coming.... we are on the same page about something! :beer:

 

[waveflyer]

I agree with you. Many of the guys at the bottom who KNOW there will be stagnation may want to look around for something better, but this threat may have them feeling nervous. So much for the "LUV" culture.....


Bye Bye---General Lee

Yes
General lee
The AUTHORITY on southwest culture

Lurkers: please ignore ANYONE WHO ACTUALLY WORKS AT SWA- and just pay attention to general lee. You just won't know the industry if you don't really take to heart his public service announcements.

 

[Kingwood]

Good to hear. It's a shame that the process had to go through those steps. I'm sure pilots leaving is a new reality that this mgmt. would not be easily swayed towards accepting. Glad they did the right thing when faced by a "major uproar" by the pilots, adds insight to other situations.

Well sure as heck wasn't a "colonel uproar"

Actually, I'd be interested in hearing if other company management types have ever sacked up and reversed a kneejerk, dumbsheet decree. First one here in a while..Don't know who if was in flt ops, but good on him for eating crow

Much better than the old "U-fly Mike" gotta talk to the lawyers...make it TSO'd ...wear these ear buds...two year odyssey cover story B.S.

 

[Mamma]

Yes
General lee
The AUTHORITY on southwest culture

Lurkers: please ignore ANYONE WHO ACTUALLY WORKS AT SWA- and just pay attention to general lee. You just won't know the industry if you don't really take to heart his public service announcements.

Enough of the culture stuff. The bottom line is companies, especially publicly traded ones do what is best for the bottom line and the shareholder. If that means instilling this "culture" to keep turnover and benefits low then so be it. JetBlue tried it and it lasted till the company's bottom line started hurting. SWA would be no different. If you "feel" having this perceived culture works for you then great. SWA is all grown up though and you guys need to come back to reality. Herb is gone. The underdog fight is no more. You just brought on a bunch of "inferior" Airtran pilots.

I work at Alaska. I am treated fairly and as a professional by my company with no false expectations. We are bonded together as employees of a company and all pull to make sure we keep our vested livlihoods moving forward. As pilots we have little choice given the alternative. It's a business where professionalism is expected in both directions. So what exactly is so different now at SWA that makes you feel so special? What is this culture makes you feel better than all the rest? I don't see it.

 

[waveflyer]

Maybe we'll merge Mamma and you can find out

 

[Mamma]

Maybe we'll merge Mamma and you can find out

Maybe.