"..With You.."

[The_Russian]

You gotta be frickin kidding me ROGER!!!

Who cares??? Cant you all see this is BS flamebait? I say with you all the time. And nobody cares. I scream CYAAAAA!! at FLL tower and they scream it back. I tell the controllers GOOD JOB! when they are. There is a controller at MIA that talks like Elvis for fun. And its funny and people like it!!!

Go fill out you NASA reports you morons.

Get over yourselves!

 

[T-handle]

And screw the frickin hat... and the uniform for that matter! T-shirts, shorts and flip flops for everyone!!

 

[Bandit60]

Aviation hasn't been worth a $h!t since they renamed the taxiways at ORD!

"Outer, bridge, wedge, cargo, See Ya!" TC

Couldn't agree more. That was always fun when they had all those names. Can you think of anymore of the names of the taxiways?

 

[EatSleepFly]

Some of you make me glad I fly single-pilot.

Although calling it a "fish finder" does somewhat annoy me though, I have to admit. Not because it's dorkish, mostly just because ATC doesn't give a crap. You either have them visually, or you don't. But I won't hold it against you.

 

[Bandit60]

Some of you make me glad I fly single-pilot.

Although calling it a "fish finder" does somewhat annoy me though, I have to admit. Not because it's dorkish, mostly just because ATC doesn't give a crap. You either have them visually, or you don't. But I won't hold it against you.

It doesn't even matter if you have them visually or not if your above fl180. Remember that ATC is just pointing out the traffic as a courtesy.

 

[EatSleepFly]

I was referring to the guy who claimed to see me on his "fish finder" while getting vectors for a visual the other day.

 

[jumppilot]

How about captain 7 is a pole smoker would that be ok to say?!!

Out of all the usual useless crap I read on Flightinfo, that actually sounds like something I'd say to captain 7 if I were to meet him in real life!

 

[chperplt]

Why let the small stuff get to you??

If you really want something to be pissed about, how about watching the Maury Povich show and getting a grasp of what is really wrong with society. I mean, how many people can Lashwanda have tested for her baby's paternity?? Can you really sleep with more than 10 men in and around conception???

Holy crap!!!

 

[blzr]

And screw the frickin hat... and the uniform for that matter! T-shirts, shorts and flip flops for everyone!!

Amen, Brotha!!!

Although I think blue jeans and a baseball hat would be appropriate for winter ops.

 

[Phaedrus]

This is a funny thread. The tone of the first post has made this a dogpile. Kind of reminds me of how the pointy-nose fellas get their panties in a wad about radio calls made by heavy guys. Their typical call at the perch is "Base, gear, stop" for a full stop. Short, informative, and definitely pegging the "coolmeter". I've seen many a heavy driver intentionally launch into a soliloquy when entering a pointy-nose pattern: "XYZ Tower, Force 33 is at the base leg, or perch--your preference; we have three green indicating down and locked and request clearance to land". Childish? Sure. Funny? At least to me.

 

[T-handle]

Not sure if it's popular at other airlines, but NWA pilots are notoriously whiny on the radio always asking how long final is going into MSP. I have NEVER heard any other airline ask how long final is. Who the fock really cares? It's always going to be 20 or more miles going into MSP. You got somewhere to go?

And many NWA pilots do not pronunciate D as Delta, they say Dixie (don't want to be caught saying your code share partner?). Wtf is dixie? Some say Dog.... so much for the phonetic alphabet, when you're flying with NWA, they've got their own vocabulary.

 

[Steeler Fan]

Good point. Everytime I hear that "on the hold" stuff it sort of reminds me of the verbiage that helped the KLM and Pan Am 747s smack together in the fog back in 1977. Yet, as you pointed out, you still hear that one all the time.

TENIRIFE...

Capt VanZanten was one of KLM's most repected pilots, but now is a CRM training aid. The accident investigtion found his lack of CRM as a contributing factor.

Lots of good points in that video. Rushing, get-home itis, leadership. But I bet ole Capt. Van Zantan always made perfect radio calls with flawless radio terminology.

This may upset some of you, but there is a middle ground here...

"Position and Hold"--absloutely (yes I was Air Force and managed to eliminate On-To-Hold from my vocabulary).
"340 for 200"--Flying Tigers comes to mind--"Descending Two-Four--Zero--Zero", versus "Descending To Four-Zero-Zero"--I never transmit "For" when I'm talking about climbing or descending--I'll say "340 Climbing 370" or "230 Descending 190"
"And Center, United 123, is with you 350"--in the states, no problem, but if your speaking to Foreign Controllers, you'd better keep it as standard as possible
*Stating which runway you're cleared to land on--Great idea (sorry to hear about your friend)
"G-day, checking-in, with-you"--No way I'm making a big deal about this--It's not a Safety issue--unless I'm flying international, then I only tend to slack off a little when I'm talking to a PATCO guy in Saudi Airspace.
*Not using your call-sign when acknowledging a clearance/frequency change--Yes this is a pet peave of mine as well
*Accepting a clearance when ATC screws up your call-sign, ie Citrus 857 versus Citrus 875--This could end up being a HUGE deal, so I want the call sign confusion fixed--"Confirm that last clearance was for Citrus 876?"
"Hey, Center, did I ever tell you that you're my favorite controller? Any chance of a short-cut tonight?"--I just hope my Captain has a sense of humor, because I've done this before, and it's worked.


Some things are truly a big deal, so in that respect I appreciate this thread, but I'm not going to tick off the guy in the other seat unless I feel it really is a safety issue. Things work better when both pilots are standard, and when both get along.


GO STEELERS!!!!!!!!

 

[PCL_128]

Not sure if it's popular at other airlines, but NWA pilots are notoriously whiny on the radio always asking how long final is going into MSP. I have NEVER heard any other airline ask how long final is. Who the fock really cares? It's always going to be 20 or more miles going into MSP. You got somewhere to go?

Knowing how long the final is allows you to plan the descent. I'm not going to throw out the boards to get a 2000 fpm descent when 1000 fpm will do on a long final.

And many NWA pilots do not pronunciate D as Delta, they say Dixie (don't want to be caught saying your code share partner?). Wtf is dixie? Some say Dog.... so much for the phonetic alphabet, when you're flying with NWA, they've got their own vocabulary.

Dixie is the official phonetic word for "D" at some airports. CVG has a taxiway Dixie and the controllers all use Dixie at ATL, SLC, and DFW usually to avoid any confusion with Delta.

 

[KC-10 Driver]

A controller recently asked me to, "State my intentions." I responded, "I would like to marry your daughter." Do you think that is what he was asking?


And, recently, while flying into JFK at about 5am, I was #1 from about 25 miles out. The NY Approach controller asked, "JetBlue XX, do you want the crowbar?" I responded, "Pry it open, baby!"

Was that non-standard?

(Translation: "Do you want a tight, steep base turn?" "Affirmative.")

 

[captain caveman]

Knowing how long the final is allows you to plan the descent. I'm not going to throw out the boards to get a 2000 fpm descent when 1000 fpm will do on a long final.

Isn't that what that "fish finder" thingy is for?

What about those idiots that say tree instead of three? There's no trees that high in the air, right?