Williams Gateway Airport Flight Patterns

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The main reason I have posed this question is to find out how MUCH traffic is going to be generated if they go more commercial at Williams. The wind usually blows from west to east, and I think that one of the runways is set northeast to southeast on an angle. I figure with the wind patterns that I have seen so far that many of the aircraft with fly over my house.

Only time will tell, but it sounds like the city of Mesa would like to generate as much traffic as possible. A big rumor for a while was making it a cargo hub. Good thing with that is there is a realitivley small percentage of cargo flights compared to passenger flights. Bad thing is the hours they typically run. Though I'd be suprised if it happens. IWA is so far east of town, therefore making trucking all the freight and packages into Phx a time consuming process.

Generally speaking, you are living right under (maybe a little to the west) the arrivals into runways 30 which is the predominate runways in use. I'm sure one day there will be regularly scheduled flights out of IWA but I doubt it will be substantial enough to be a major headache.

 

[AHP-TWAMaddog]

Overflights of QC

I live in QC and Fly a daily shuttle operation out of IWA and our flight from the West Coast always flys directly over the San Tans and sometimes as far south as Johnson Ranch and Copper Basin at about 4000 msl or 2400 agl in a twin jet commuter size. We do that 5 days a week and in the morning we fly over Pegasus Airpark on our way West. I see IWA as a major hub airport soon since PHX is growing so much and can definately support 2 major airports.

IMO

Tailwinds

 

[sqwkvfr]

So do I and I don't know what all the fuss is about. There is more noise from those soon-to-be-deaf-guy's driving around the neighborhood with the bass blasting away or the guy who thinks it is cool to sit in his garage opening the throttle on his Harley Davidson at all hours of the day, just because he thinks it sounds cool.

I lived in "the tuke" for a while and I always thought it ironic that the same people bitching about the aircraft on those arrivals that were 6000ft in the air and throttled back were the same ones that bought their spoiled-brat kids (when I see them walking down the street after dark I call them the "Ahwatukee toughs") those noisy little scooters with the chainsaw motors on 'em.

 

[sqwkvfr]

Isn't Queen Creek right around the Chandler Airport as well? What kind of overflying traffic do you get from that airport?

I know its probably a lot smaller aircraft then whats going into IWA, but I had a friend that lived out there and it was always annoying regardless.

I live just west of the 45 to downwind entry for RWYs 22. I enjoy it.

 

[GulfstreamSDL]

So what if IWA becomes commercial? The airport was here before a lot of the development out here. Where else is the traffic gonna go once PHX gets too busy?...Nice big 'ol airport out here that's capable. Let the state be stupid and waste money on a new, unnecessary airport somewhere, just like they blew millions on a new stadium for the worst team in the NFL.

Its not even that loud...chill out

 

[Philso]

those noisy little scooters with the chainsaw motors on 'em.

I hate those things, they have to be the biggest noise polluters ever made. There is nothing more annoying than sitting out on the patio, enjoying a nice cool Guinness, watching the big iron flying overhead only to the 2 stroke scooter engines, minutes before you see it drive by.

 

[Philso]

.. just like they blew millions on a new stadium for the worst team in the NFL.

Don't forget the billion or so for 'Light Rail' !!

 

[sqwkvfr]

Don't forget the billion or so for 'Light Rail' !!

Oh, no. It was FAR more than one billion.

Even after that super-expensive piece of (*&$ is built, I'll still be sitting in traffic on the 60 or the 10NB from Chandler Blvd in the morning.

 

[EngineOut]

So what if IWA becomes commercial? The airport was here before a lot of the development out here. Where else is the traffic gonna go once PHX gets too busy?...Nice big 'ol airport out here that's capable. Let the state be stupid and waste money on a new, unnecessary airport somewhere, just like they blew millions on a new stadium for the worst team in the NFL.

Its not even that loud...chill out

Don't tell me you're talking about the Bengals. Arizona paid money to build the Bengals a new stadium??????!!!!!!!!

Cardinals rule!!! Particularly this year. You are a MuttBunch.

 

[GulfstreamSDL]

You are a MuttBunch.

ok

I hate those things, they have to be the biggest noise polluters ever made.

(possible thread hijack alert):
Yeah those are kinda annoying (especially living on campus, a half mile from the dog-gon runway). ATSI has stopped operations in the last month or so...maybe cuz its too hot(???). I know our planes are grounded at 110*F or so. Thats fine though, no 7AM wakeup calls from 4 scooters Listening to them over the radio is just as annoying - sounds like they're talking to tower through a Cambell's soup can.

 

[klingon67]

Honestly what did you expect? no noise! That far from the airport the A/C are a couple thousand feet AGL , how bad can it be? It has to be better than the smell of horse manure out there. I heard Tombstone is nice.

 

[Resume Writer]

Honestly what did you expect? no noise! That far from the airport the A/C are a couple thousand feet AGL , how bad can it be? It has to be better than the smell of horse manure out there. I heard Tombstone is nice.

Well, since I like horses, I don't have a problem, although I have not smelled any horse manure out here!

Now, as to what I expected. When you read a public report when buying a house, and you ask specifically if you are in a flight pattern, I expect to be told the truth.

How bad is the noise? Well, that depends on which aircraft is flying overhead. The fighter jets in formation screaming over the house is a little loud. Or the KC-135 (at least that is what I think it is) doing whatever training pattern they perform. There is another aircraft that I'm not sure what it is, but it is military (high wing, two or four prop engines), that flew VERY low over my house was a loud one.

The traffic now is not too bad. However, the reason for my post was to ascertain what the traffic COULD be like in the future. That is why I asked about the flight patterns and altitude.

Maybe a move to Tombstone is in my future, although I think that is pretty close to either Fort Huachuca or Davis-Monthan AFB!

Kathy