Will Obama help or hurt Fractionals

[Fozzy]

Only the fools will vote for race, gender or religion rather then the issues.

I always love those statements.

Anyways, I am voting for the chick.

Well maybe not, Barr maybe my man.

 

[Sparse]

Only the fools will vote for race, gender or religion rather then the issues.

Obama will get 95% plus of the black vote. I wonder how many of them are voting on the issues.

By the way, the calculator doesn't figure how much I will pay with out the capital gains tax which is available to all Americans. That is my largest complaint about Obama's tax plan.

 

[jetwash]

Obama will get 95% plus of the black vote. I wonder how many of them are voting on the issues.


I agree, fools come in all colors, genders and religions.





By the way, the calculator doesn't figure how much I will pay with out the capital gains tax which is available to all Americans. That is my largest complaint about Obama's tax plan.

Here is the link I was looking for


http://alchemytoday.com/obamataxcut/details.html

If you are married"

http://www.taxpolicycenter.org/numbers/displayatab.cfm?Docid=1976&DocTypeID=7

 

[Fozzy]

Obama will get 95% plus of the black vote. I wonder how many of them are voting on the issues.

But that is different. :erm:

 

[Sparse]

Use the calculator link to figure out your own tax break. (unless you are earning more then $250,000/year)

http://obamataxcut.com/

I used the calculator and found something very interesting. I will have an AGI roughly 5.7 times that of my school teacher daughter. My tax cut however will be over twelve times what she will get. How does that work? It's good for me but is it really fair for her?

Not to belabor the point but the Omnibus Budget Reconciliation Act of 1990, placed taxes on luxury items such as expensive boats, cars, planes, jewelry, and furs. Florida, the largest boat manufactoring state, saw the loss of 5000 of the 18000 sector jobs, as a direct effect of this tax. This by the way was under GHWB and a Democratic controlled congress. It was a factor in the Republican's contract with America revolution in 1994.

 

[Voice Of Reason]

I wonder why the media is getting so scared that now that it is clear their man may not win, they have to pull the race card against a few whites they CLAIM won't vote for Obama because he's black? Funny they don't point out the 95% of blacks not voting for McCain because he's white and they have a black option (note: 95% of blacks are NOT all liberal, so explain that). Nevermind the two have polar opposite political stances and people won't vote for Obama because he's an extremist liberal, NOT because of his race.

 

[cougar12]

No Obama

Obama will be bad for the fractionals and all of the country! He is going to have the federal government fix all the problems with tax money from the rich, ya-right. They can afford the high price accountants and find a way not to pay, then he will have to get it from us. Some how, we will end up footing the bill. The lead Democrats in Washington are complete Idiots.

 

[wacoflyr]

Cougar,

Bravo! What a deep, inciteful reply. I especially like how you backed up your statements with well researched facts and figures. The depth of your argument is truly impressive.
Obama would never have a chance in a debate against such an intelligent republican as you. In fact, I would venture to say that your argument is a perfect reflection of the entire republican position!
It is clear that you would make an excellent political analyst. Perhaps you should leave flying and go to work for one of our many impartial news agencies, such as, say, Fox news? You could have a great career there. Or, dare I say it, perhaps you should seek political office! There is many a village in search of an idiot. You would fit right in.


Wacoflyr

 

[Voice Of Reason]

Perhaps you should leave flying and go to work for one of our many impartial news agencies, such as, say, Fox news? You could have a great career there.

Wacoflyr

I wonder why you singled out Fox News and not CNN or MSNBC? I guess blatant impartiality is ok as long is it is what YOU want to hear....

 

[wacoflyr]

Blatant impartiality? Are you sure that is what you meant to say? Nevertheless, I see your point. Many news outlets favor one side of politics or the other. I merely picked one that is far, far more yellow than most.
Given the current news landscape, it would be very difficult to pick an "impartial" news outlet. Perhaps that is something we can agree on.

Wacoflyr

 

[blueridge71]

Obama will be bad for the fractionals and all of the country! He is going to have the federal government fix all the problems with tax money from the rich, ya-right. They can afford the high price accountants and find a way not to pay, then he will have to get it from us. Some how, we will end up footing the bill. The lead Democrats in Washington are complete Idiots.

You are right. Obama says that he will keep companies in the US by punishing those that export jobs. But right now, they are being punshed if they stay. The US already has one of the highest corporate tax rates in the world. On top of that, we have unfriendly tort laws and stifling bureaucracy. It would be difficult to imagine how they can be punished more than they are now, although I'm sure he has a plan.

The interesting thing is that, even with everything stacked against them, the economy is still growing and creating jobs (at least up until last week). That just goes to show the strength of American business. Imagine what they could do with a friendly tax climate as under the Fair Tax.

 

[blueridge71]

Like you said blueridge, don't confuse them with the facts.

BTW, latest Gallup poll: Obama 50% McCain 44%

The electoral map based on in-state polling looks more like OBummer every day.

National polls mean nothing. I'm only concerned about the 50 state polls on election day.

Although I am disappointed that more people have not seen through Obama's class-warfare rhetoric yet. It may take living under his governance to make some see the light, much the way four years under Carter gave us a decade of conservatism under Reagan-Bush 41.

What really concerns me is that the world is a lot more unstable now than in the late 70s. The lights of democracy are going out in a lot of places and Russia, Iran, North Korea, and Venezuela are all causing trouble. I really don't think Obama is ready or qualified to deal with them. The one important foreign policy decision that he was called upon to make, support for the surge, he screwed up.

If Obama is elected, I predict an Israeli strike on Iran before he takes office. They won't trust him to deal with the problem and their survival is at stake. The new Israeli PM is a wild card.

 

[wacoflyr]

You have conveniently forgotten that Obama was an almost lone voice against the war with Iraq to begin with. In my opinion, that qualifies as an important public foreign policy stance. The problems surrounding Israel and the middle east have not exactly been front and center with the current administration for the past eight years. What makes you think that Obama can possibly do worse?
To be just, the problems growing from a more powerful Iran and an Israel in turmoil are not of Bush's making. But he has ignored them.
McCain has my respect, and I believe that he can handle the military better than Obama, but I do not care for his hawkish stance. He may be able to fight a war better, but I do not believe that he has any interest in avoiding one, or ending one.

With regards, Wacoflyr

 

[OUjetdrvr]

Who ever said Palin was the most qualified of all the candidates, sure has the blinders on. And to vote for someone just because they are hot is about as silly as voting for/against one for their skin color. -Liberal/Conservative Independent American-

 

[gunfyter]

Palin is the one MOST Right (correct) on the issues.

Obama giving a speech right now bashing people who ride on corporate jets... sounds great for the Fractionals uke:

Guess again who's to blame for U.S. mortgage meltdown?
Analysts point not to greed, but to social activist politics


and...

'How the Democrats Created the Financial Crisis'...

 

[blueridge71]

You have conveniently forgotten that Obama was an almost lone voice against the war with Iraq to begin with. In my opinion, that qualifies as an important public foreign policy stance.

I didn't forget. He was not in Congress then so he didn't have to make the call. It's easy to criticize from the sidelines.

Besides, I think that history will judge that the liberation of Iraq was the correct move. Read the Iraqi Perspectives Report.
http://www.jfcom.mil/newslink/storyarchive/2008/P-4287 Vol 1.pdf

The problems surrounding Israel and the middle east have not exactly been front and center with the current administration for the past eight years. What makes you think that Obama can possibly do worse?
To be just, the problems growing from a more powerful Iran and an Israel in turmoil are not of Bush's making. But he has ignored them.

You are entitled to your own opinion, but not your own facts. Bush has pursued sanctions in the UN and worked with our NATO allies to build a coalition against Iranian nuclear programs.

He may not have been successful (largely due to Russia), but he hasn't ignored the problem. You would prefer a unilateral military strike, perhaps?

McCain has my respect, and I believe that he can handle the military better than Obama, but I do not care for his hawkish stance. He may be able to fight a war better, but I do not believe that he has any interest in avoiding one, or ending one.

With regards, Wacoflyr

With his (and Palin's) son in the military in Iraq, I believe that he has plenty of incentive to avoid and end. However, I do believe that he understands that peace is not merely the absence of conflict and that some things are worse than war.

 

[captain dad]

McCain Hates Pilots!

 

[54fighting]

Yeah, and Obama really gives a rat's a$$ about pilots.

 

[CA1900]

Yeah, and Obama really gives a rat's a$$ about pilots.

I'd rather have one who's indifferent to pilots -- and very supportive of unions -- than one who has publicly spoken out against "greedy" pilots and unions who "cripple" their companies.

 

[Bronco Buster]

You obviously don't know what you are talking about. Unless your estate is 2 million or more there is no federal estate tax. And by the way Teddy Roosevelt was, and Warren Buffet and Bill Gates are very strong supporters of the estate tax.