Why would Allegiant Post A Job for Airbus Fleet Manager? Mistake?

[jws717]

Unless that is of course if it does not like what you are doing or thinks what you are doing will hurt you then it will do what it thinks you should have been doing all along.....kinda like an old legacy capt....used to do back in the day!

If you understand the software, you will never get into that situation. It uses very basic rules. You can also turn all the stuff off if you don't like what it's up to.

 

[reepicheep]

Put it this way....would the Air France accident over the Atlantic have occurred if it was a 767?

 

[Cavity]

Airbiiiiiiii on their way.

 

[johnsonrod]

Transitioning back to Boeing from the Airbus and FBW/sidestick has got to be an interesting experience...

 

[jws717]

Put it this way....would the Air France accident over the Atlantic have occurred if it was a 767?

Would The American 757 have flown into the monitains of Cali Columbia if it was an a320?


It's a bad thing to speculate this way, it depends on the pilots knowledge of systems and airmanship more than a bus vs boeing thing.

 

[GuinessGuy]

Very true.....
The AFrance thing is sad......they flew out of the complicated part (unreliable airspeed) and hooked on the easy part (push the nose down to get some airspeed)
Like almost all, the transript is a sad, sad thing....
On the Boeing vs. Airbus thing, if the Airbus had a nice big yoke, when the capt came up and sat in the Jumpseat, he would have seen the dude in the right seat holding full back stick the entire time......at least until 2000 ft or so....

 

[Dizel8]

Put it this way....would the Air France accident over the Atlantic have occurred if it was a 767?

I think a 757 went down in S. America due to taped over static ports, stalled as well IIRC.

 

[SMcC]

Very true.....
The AFrance thing is sad......they flew out of the complicated part (unreliable airspeed) and hooked on the easy part (push the nose down to get some airspeed)
Like almost all, the transript is a sad, sad thing....
On the Boeing vs. Airbus thing, if the Airbus had a nice big yoke, when the capt came up and sat in the Jumpseat, he would have seen the dude in the right seat holding full back stick the entire time......at least until 2000 ft or so....

I don't buy the Airbus v Boeing arguments, or side stick v yoke. This is about type specific training and basic airmanship. The flying pilot in the right seat was betting his life that holding the stick full back would work. And the captain coming in and sitting in the Jumpseat!?!?!?. How about getting in the captain's seat and figure out what's going on?

 

[Beetle007]

I think a 757 went down in S. America due to taped over static ports, stalled as well IIRC.

There was no tape over the static ports on the 757 that crashed in Cali, Colombia.

They flew off course due to poor FMS design and lack of Navaid confirmation then hit a mountain during GPWS recovery due to the speed-brakes not retracting even when they applied max thrust.

 

[...Lost]

There was no tape over the static ports on the 757 that crashed in Cali, Colombia.

They flew off course due to poor FMS design and lack of Navaid confirmation then hit a mountain during GPWS recovery due to the speed-brakes not retracting even when they applied max thrust.

FWIW he didn't say Cali, just "South America". Reference the crash in the link...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aeroperú_Flight_603

 

[hyflyin]

I have to say the opposite is true.

Fair enough, I'll bite.

So how exactly is the airbus like any other airplane? From high speed protection to low speed stability, thrust lock to toga lock, side stick priority to the instinctive disconnects. Is it the last 30' where the a/c pitches over to force you to flare or multiple failures of redundant systems that change laws. More specifically the change in law when you put the gear down. Rate vs proportional input. Tell me how thats like any other airplane. In some cases you are not in control even with the autopilot off, think protection.

I agree it's not rocket science but to say its just like any other airplane is quite a stretch. I guess we can agree on one thing. When the world is in order the airbus will violate you quickly if your not paying attention to your FMA's.

:beer:

 

[SMcC]

Fly by wire, yes...
Various "protections" yes...
Side stick, yes...
Side stick that doesn't move along with the other, yes...
Pilots tend to blame their inadequacies on the airplane because its an Airbus, yes...
But these things do not change the laws of physics that rule over all aircraft. Most of the guys critical of the Airbus have never flown it. It is far more conventional than unconventional. Automation can lead to complacency in any modern day airliner. I saw it in the MD80 as much as I do in the Airbus.

 

[johnsonrod]

The C-Series sounds a lot more pilot-friendly (and far more advanced) than the A320:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YyVa8amVPig&feature=related

 

[Grey Ghost]

Just sign the card!!!!! :smash: