SirFlyALot said:
Otherwise, OBAP would have instead called itself something like "Inner City Aviation Awareness Organization". That is not what OBAP chose to call itself. Why? Because OBAP exists mainly to establish, promote, and advance the careers of minorities in aviation.
As I posted earlier, the organization found its name at a time when the main purpose was to fight for the rights of black commercial pilots who were well qualified and were not being hired. The name has stayed the same since.
SirFlyALot said:
However, it is an organization geared toward the advancement of minorities. Why can't it be an organization geared toward the elimination of race as any kind of a factor in a pilot's airline career?
You are right, idealistically that should not be a factor. I guarantee you though that no so called minority pilot feels as though he or she is owed a job.
SirFlyALot said:
What is OBAP's official and unofficial position on racial quotas, affirmative action, and racial preference in hiring and human resources decisions? Would you minority pilots out there not be offended if some folks started a group called, "The Organization of White Airline Pilots (OWAP)"? Would it make it better if they explained, as an aside, that anyone was welcome to join? Would you, as a minority pilot, feel like your interests were being looked out for if you joined OWAP?
I am not sure as a member what the position is on quotas, affirmative action because these words have never been spoken when I have dealt with the organization. As for hiring, they don't hire, the airlines do.
Out of 75,000 commercial pilots in the US, only 2% are minorities and 5% are women. The rest are White Airline Pilots, so in essence there is plenty of organizations that as a minority, one could look at and think, would I be welcome? Are my interests being looked after? I guess you answered my question because you think that if you were to join OBAP you would wonder if your interests are being looked at. Try being one of 1,500 out of 75,000. Personally it doesn't bother me because I know what I bring to the table.
SirFlyALot said:
I personally know of at least a couple of incidents where less qualified minority pilots have been interviewed and hired when more qualified white pilots haven't even gotten a call.
I'm not sure how you knew that was the case because I don't know of any airline that tells you who beat you out for a position and the reason unless its a small outfit hiring a few people and you all happen to be interviewing the same day. First, just because you have more time doesn't mean you are more qualified or entitled to a job. Just read the posts on Airline Interviews of those getting hired and those not. You will see that many lower time pilots are getting hired. More qualified does not only mean more time, more qualified means that what you bring to the table overall is better. That is the first problem, some believe that the job belongs to them. Secondly, you have to interview well for the job. So to assume that the only reason they so called got beat out for the job was simply because they were a minority, you insult that person because you assume they could not possibly have been sharper, more educated, more likeable and just an overall better candidate.
I'm sure a minority pilot colleague of mine who is an Ivy League grad and former Wall Street banker is more qualified even at his lower time. Don't assume you know what someone brings to the table because they might be more qualified than you.
I have a long time friend of mine who got hired at a Major with just the bare minimums because his father was the Chief Pilot and obviously he had the major hookup. This type of advantage happens more often than not, knowing someone inside, a good connection. Is that unfair because that person is being hired because they are blood. I think that is an advantage he had and he would be an idiot not to take advantage of it. I don't go around saying he took my job or my slot, I instead turn to him to network.
SirFlyALot said:
Shouldn't we all; white, black, yellow, etc work together to eliminate discrimination entirely rather than segregating ourselves and advancing the cause of one racial group over another? Isn't that the America we'd all like to see?
Once again you are right on equalling the playing field. I don't think you have much to worry about the 1,500 minority commercial pilots, you might want to keep an eye on the other 73,500.