Whoever keeps trying to take their personal crap through the KCM ckpoints......

[densoo]

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[Lear70]

What does it matter....I never had a problem with the old way...it takes as long as it takes...never really cut the line...time to transit security is not my problem....I dont think pilots should be exempt anyway....to many odd balls

Good. You can stay in the regular line. Will make getting through the KCM checkpoint at a large airline's domicile much quicker...

Getting through the line in MCO takes anywhere from 20-25 minutes. I kid you not. It's ridiculous and when I have a 5:30 a.m. report, an hour drive in, and have to fly a 12 hour day across 3 time zones, I really would appreciate the extra 15 minutes of sleep.

KCM would be the best thing to happen to that airport and it's overstaffed TSA regime. If someone screws up that program by being a frakking idiot about what they can carry through or not on their own leisure travel, even if they're taking their family with them on a trip, then THEY need to lose the privilege, not the entire professional airline pilot as a group.

Or we could just tar and feather the offenders...

 

[180ToTheMarker]

If someone screws up that program by being a frakking idiot about what they can carry through or not on their own leisure travel, even if they're taking their family with them on a trip, then THEY need to lose the privilege, not the entire professional airline pilot as a group.

Or we could just tar and feather the offenders...

Agreed but remember its the federal imperial govt. They'll panic and put out one of those "effective immediately" memos.

 

[puddlejumper101]

What does it matter....I never had a problem with the old way...it takes as long as it takes...never really cut the line...time to transit security is not my problem....I dont think pilots should be exempt anyway....to many odd balls

The problem I have is most rampers, gate agents, ops agents, and other ground workers don't go through security. So they can carry anything they want to work and never get screened because they have a SIDA badge, yet the crew still goes through security. I have never understood that. I have seen some rampers (all carriers) that look rough. They look and act like prison is in their future yet they can be trusted. Me, on the other hand, who has a whole career to loose and will have the airplane under my control can't be trusted WTF. TSA is a joke.

 

[jonjuan]

It's amazing that supposedly intelligent, educated and skilled people,

Supposedly? who told you this?

 

[SplitBar]

Also, KCM is not for non revving. You must be in uniform and on duty to use it. I know of a couple pilots in hot water for using it while not on duty.

 

[Lear70]

Depends. If I'm commuting to/from work and had the option to use it, I would.

 

[LeeRoyJenkins]

Define "personal crap"... I carry all sorts of things with me on a trip. Are you referring to things you wouldn't normally be able to carry through a checkpoint?

In think in your case they are talking about that Fleshlight you are so found of.

 

[SplitBar]

Depends. If I'm commuting to/from work and had the option to use it, I would.

You have to be on duty. You aren't on duty while commuting. TSA can match KCM with your airline and random audits have caught a few already You don't want to be the next to get caught.

 

[SplitBar]

Gotcha... thanks. I definitely agree, I'd organize the towel party for such individuals...

Tough talk from a fool who isn't even willing to follow the rules of the KCM system himself.

 

[Lear70]

Tough talk from a fool who isn't even willing to follow the rules of the KCM system himself.

Interesting that you quote those are the rules. I can't find them anywhere in the system and our company hasn't posted that.

So point your "fool" comment somewhere else, eh sport? You can always find me, my identity isn't anonymous on here.

In think in your case they are talking about that Fleshlight you are so found of.

Nice... lol

 

[CaptWidgeon]

why should it be for work only? anyone can order a pilot costume from sporty's. hell my airline doesn't even issue us wings so that's not a prob. what if i'm going to the lounge to check my mailbox or do a carpet dance for the big wigs?

and if i am jumpseating, i sit over a crash axe. i have access to it whether i'm in costume or sporting my tommy bahama silk floral print shirt and topsiders.

and you want some group of frickin' rejects who's last job prob didn't even require a h.s diploma to "keep me safe"? they're doing a dandy job there in corpus.
http://www.caller.com/news/2011/dec/29/man-carries-sword-undetected-through-corpus/

some tool gets caught doing something illegal, hang him, don't hang all of us. what if we hung all of tsa every time they missed something. come to think of it, that's a good idea.

 

[PCL_128]

It is not a requirement that you have to be working to use KCM. You just have to be in uniform. If you want to use the KCM checkpoint for commuting or nonrevving, that's fine, you just have to have your uniform on.

 

[CaptWidgeon]

It is not a requirement that you have to be working to use KCM. You just have to be in uniform. If you want to use the KCM checkpoint for commuting or nonrevving, that's fine, you just have to have your uniform on.

so you're saying splitbar is wrong? and there are no audits?

You have to be on duty. You aren't on duty while commuting. TSA can match KCM with your airline and random audits have caught a few already You don't want to be the next to get caught.

i wouldn't put it past the jerk offs to do random checks. i can see it being some mid level mgr's idea in a shot to get moved up to upper mgmt.

 

[PCL_128]

so you're saying splitbar is wrong?

Yes. The only requirement is that you be in uniform.

 

[michael707767]

Yes. The only requirement is that you be in uniform.

What about an LCA who is on duty but is wearing a coat and tie?

 

[jonjuan]

What about an LCA who is on duty but is wearing a coat and tie?

Not a uniform. There's no hat.

 

[PCL_128]

What about an LCA who is on duty but is wearing a coat and tie?

Nope. Have to be in uniform. Stupid rule, I know, but they're stuck on it.

 

[dicko]

Define "personal crap"... I carry all sorts of things with me on a trip. Are you referring to things you wouldn't normally be able to carry through a checkpoint?

Can't imagine that being a huge issue... I mean if you take it through that checkpoint, the next overnight as soon as you have to go through regular security, they're going to confiscate it (or worse), so what exactly are you referring to?

No need to worry. They'll let you keep 'The Rabbit' .....

 

[brokedash]

Are we discussing the airports were pilots in uniform can enter the terminal through the TSA exit lane?