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Of all the rips, cutdowns, and smart mouth remarks being made to the young guy who started this thread, there is one thing to remember. This career choice that you have made WILL become a job. Like every JOB it will have it's complaints. Especially, when you have 3 or 4 hours to sit in a plane to think about what pisses you off.

Welcome to our world. No matter what route we all took to get to where we are, most of us now have jobs, not paid hobbies. I hope this makes some since. We are pilots. We complain. We pick on each other. Those who cannot take the ribbing....well, they don't last long in this business.
 
All future Riddle enrollees, transfers, please be sure to check out the new Film Study/Cinematography project which I am currently petitioning for Bachelor of Arts Status. A major film director with the initials GL received a copy of our latest endeavor and is believed to be interested in becoming a benefactor if not sponsor. Please don't hesitate to stop by our booth during the spring and fall ERAU enrollment seminars on campus at AFROTC.
 
A few questions for airforceusaf:

1. Where in the frick did you learn how to spell?
2. Are you foreign?
3. What does "Dad" fly for United? How long has he been there?

Look man, I am not trying to pick on you. I suck at writing, but it seems that you can't write for shite. I am also trying to figure out if you are a Flamer...
 
I've been going to (and hating) this school since 2000. Financial problems forced me to take a couple years off. Now I'm back as a full time staff member getting free tuition to finish my degree. I've switched from Aero Sci to Aeronautics so I dont have to pay ridiculous flight costs. However I did get my instrument and commercial ratings here in 2000 and 2001 and the instruction was top notch.

If I had to do it all over again I would go to the local FBO with a good rep and do ALL my ratings while going to community college for at least one year, possibly 2. Transfer in, they will accept ALL ratings received prior to matriculation so you can still get the Aero Sci degree without flying on campus.

Theres ALOT of BS here, but I'm a firm believer in finishing what I started. Aside from this board, you gain automatic respect in many aviation circles by attending Riddle. I've experienced it first hand.

But if you come in here expecting that you're gonna be the best, and a badass, you will become one of those jackasses that I hate, that permeate this place.

I have a personal rule not to talk about planes or flying when I'm drinking. I destroy anybody around me who does. I'm so sick of being in bars listening to pencil dicked losers discuss how crazy their last instrument approach was. Listen you tool, at Riddle they dont let you do anything crazy, shut up.

Sorry for the rant, but as long as you keep a normal life outside of this school, you'll get respect.

There is no college life on this campus, your best bet is to move off campus as quickly as possible and get a job so you can meet people that have nothing to do with Riddle.

And the AFROTC program here is very good. 2 good friends went through it and are very successful.
 
Hmmm...You hated this place so much that you...decided to become a full-time staff member. Boy, if that ain't just hypocrisy, I don't know what is. Go somewhere else, please. I'm begging you. God, I hope you don't work for me...Anonymity is a pain.

I've been here for a number of years as a flight instructor. Yes, the place has its drawbacks. Yes, some people hate the sims. However, some people think that flying is too expensive and they'd be bitching about that instead. Are we perfect? Nope. Are the people at Financial Aid helpful? Nope. Cheap tuition? Nope.

However, we're working on it. The problem is turning around a corporate culture that has expected others to conform to their idea of what is good and what is not. In the past year alone, ERAU has done the following to its Daytona Beach campus to address your concerns:

- ousted the top management (chairman, Chief CFI, and one Asst Chief CFI) of the Flight Department and streamlined the management structure

- ousted the President of the university and replaced him with very down-to-earth, no-BS guy intent on redirecting the $ to campus improvements and not to misguided programs like CAPT

- appointed a new Chancellor to the DB Campus (Dr. Tom Connolly - former Associate Dean of the College of Aviation and a really nice guy)

- redesigned the flight curriculum to offer more choices in curriculum; expect to see a single-engine AND multi-engine track available to all students, along with an option to fast-track your training (if you qualify, you'll fly 5-6 days per week instead of 3)

After all of this is said and done, we typically hire many of our own students as CFIs, where the pay is much better than your average flight school for the predictability of work that you get (you don't have to find your own students). Our CFIs start at $14.72/hour and top at about $22/hour with full faculty benefits, including free tuition. I got a graduate degree from ERAU free of charge. Not bad for a CFI. Can UND offer the same? I'm actually curious, as I don't know...

Don't discount the fact that ERAU graduates are everywhere. Somewhere else on this board someone mentioned pilots at interviews being ERAU grads. This is certainly true east of the Mississippi for DAB grads. West is true for PSC grads. Everywhere you fly you hear an ATC controller talking about how he attended back in '85. You'll meet pilots everywhere that will help you get a job. Again, perfect? Nope. Perhaps we need to work on managing our expectations...

Everyone on this campus is eerily aware of how poor customer service has been for too long and the leadership in place now has the attitude that you either will go along with improving the student experience or you will be slowly worked out of the system. It's gonna take a few years to fix it, but we're on our way. Yes, we're actually doing this.

As far as DB itself is concerned, it's much nicer now than it was when I got here...which isn't saying much. Still plenty of not-nice places, but you can avoid them quite easily. It's not as if you have gangs rolling down International Speedway Boulevard during the races. I lived in town for 5 years before moving north and am glad to be out, but I never feared for my safety when living in town. It's just a little too crazy with the bikes, races, and tourists. Like it or not, it's a tourist economy here with a ton of small colleges. It grows on you...unless you're homesick, in which case you'd even hate nice places like Denver, Minneapolis, DC, NYC, etc.

In any case, the bashing here is a little exaggerated but founded at least in some fact. Just know that we're doing our part to try to improve things a bunch. Not just a little. It needs to be more affordable with better service and a better experience. Period. It'll take some years to get there, however. In the meantime, really a pretty good school. And the AS degree can be worth it, if only for the internships (which help you get jobs at lower mins later).

Have fun and flame away.
 
mocaman said:
A few questions for airforceusaf:

1. Where in the frick did you learn how to spell?
2. Are you foreign?
3. What does "Dad" fly for United? How long has he been there?

Look man, I am not trying to pick on you. I suck at writing, but it seems that you can't write for shoote. I am also trying to figure out if you are a Flamer...

My thoughts exactly - I admire the kid's eagerness, but ERAU is still an accredited four-year degree granting institution, right? So that means at some point you'll have to take English Comp 101 or something similar, right? Does anyone ever pay ERAU the 100k and fail out for academic reasons? This kid might want to take some community college classes first to see if he's cut out for college. If not, there's always the FBO route.

Sorry, I'm not trying to be insulting, but I used to advise high school students. I had my fair share of kids who were "sitting on a pair of two's" academically speaking, but were certain they'd breeze through college.

Regardless, best of luck to you.
 
merikeyegro said:
Hmmm...You hated this place so much that you...decided to become a full-time staff member. Boy, if that ain't just hypocrisy, I don't know what is. Go somewhere else, please. I'm begging you. God, I hope you don't work for me...Anonymity is a pain.

I've been here for a number of years as a flight instructor. Yes, the place has its drawbacks. Yes, some people hate the sims. However, some people think that flying is too expensive and they'd be bitching about that instead. Are we perfect? Nope. Are the people at Financial Aid helpful? Nope. Cheap tuition? Nope.

However, we're working on it. The problem is turning around a corporate culture that has expected others to conform to their idea of what is good and what is not. In the past year alone, ERAU has done the following to its Daytona Beach campus to address your concerns:

- ousted the top management (chairman, Chief CFI, and one Asst Chief CFI) of the Flight Department and streamlined the management structure

- ousted the President of the university and replaced him with very down-to-earth, no-BS guy intent on redirecting the $ to campus improvements and not to misguided programs like CAPT

- appointed a new Chancellor to the DB Campus (Dr. Tom Connolly - former Associate Dean of the College of Aviation and a really nice guy)

- redesigned the flight curriculum to offer more choices in curriculum; expect to see a single-engine AND multi-engine track available to all students, along with an option to fast-track your training (if you qualify, you'll fly 5-6 days per week instead of 3)

After all of this is said and done, we typically hire many of our own students as CFIs, where the pay is much better than your average flight school for the predictability of work that you get (you don't have to find your own students). Our CFIs start at $14.72/hour and top at about $22/hour with full faculty benefits, including free tuition. I got a graduate degree from ERAU free of charge. Not bad for a CFI. Can UND offer the same? I'm actually curious, as I don't know...

Don't discount the fact that ERAU graduates are everywhere. Somewhere else on this board someone mentioned pilots at interviews being ERAU grads. This is certainly true east of the Mississippi for DAB grads. West is true for PSC grads. Everywhere you fly you hear an ATC controller talking about how he attended back in '85. You'll meet pilots everywhere that will help you get a job. Again, perfect? Nope. Perhaps we need to work on managing our expectations...

Everyone on this campus is eerily aware of how poor customer service has been for too long and the leadership in place now has the attitude that you either will go along with improving the student experience or you will be slowly worked out of the system. It's gonna take a few years to fix it, but we're on our way. Yes, we're actually doing this.

As far as DB itself is concerned, it's much nicer now than it was when I got here...which isn't saying much. Still plenty of not-nice places, but you can avoid them quite easily. It's not as if you have gangs rolling down International Speedway Boulevard during the races. I lived in town for 5 years before moving north and am glad to be out, but I never feared for my safety when living in town. It's just a little too crazy with the bikes, races, and tourists. Like it or not, it's a tourist economy here with a ton of small colleges. It grows on you...unless you're homesick, in which case you'd even hate nice places like Denver, Minneapolis, DC, NYC, etc.

In any case, the bashing here is a little exaggerated but founded at least in some fact. Just know that we're doing our part to try to improve things a bunch. Not just a little. It needs to be more affordable with better service and a better experience. Period. It'll take some years to get there, however. In the meantime, really a pretty good school. And the AS degree can be worth it, if only for the internships (which help you get jobs at lower mins later).

Have fun and flame away.

UND also hires many of its students as CFIs which are eligible for comparable pay and full faculty benefits (not sure about free tuition though).
 
iLR60Mac said:
Of all the rips, cutdowns, and smart mouth remarks being made to the young guy who started this thread, there is one thing to remember. This career choice that you have made WILL become a job. Like every JOB it will have it's complaints. Especially, when you have 3 or 4 hours to sit in a plane to think about what pisses you off.

Welcome to our world. No matter what route we all took to get to where we are, most of us now have jobs, not paid hobbies. I hope this makes some since. We are pilots. We complain. We pick on each other. Those who cannot take the ribbing....well, they don't last long in this business.

I know what you are saying, and agree. I still think we should be able to respect each other as (future) professionals. A little professional courtesy is all thats asked.

And yes, if you are going to solicit the advice of experienced pilots, it makes it a lot easier for them to read your post if you try and write it in english. No one is going to pick on you for misspelling a word or two here or there, but it is annoying to have to pick through something with non existent sentence structure, lack of punctuation, and words with VERY creative spellings. Put a little more effort into your question, and you will find people put a little more effort into their responses. Just a little bit of constructive criticism.
 
Alex429595 said:
I know what you are saying, and agree. I still think we should be able to respect each other as (future) professionals. A little professional courtesy is all thats asked.

And yes, if you are going to solicit the advice of experienced pilots, it makes it a lot easier for them to read your post if you try and write it in english. No one is going to pick on you for misspelling a word or two here or there, but it is annoying to have to pick through something with non existent sentence structure, lack of punctuation, and words with VERY creative spellings. Put a little more effort into your question, and you will find people put a little more effort into their responses. Just a little bit of constructive criticism.


Hmmm, ok. (anyone else seeing the hypocricy in this?)
 

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