Who Is Going Or Will Be Going To Embry Riddle

[J.C.Airborne]

Not really, but please don't carry the "My Daddy is a UAL Captain and makes over 200K per year, and thats what I'm gonna do too" attitude into ERAU. Consider it tough love. There is some good advice in this thread, amidst the bullcrap.

He seemed reasonable until that came out...then it was all bets are off...that sort of attitude just pisses off. Im sure its worse at ERAU...but here at UND there are always those few people who go home every weekend because there daddy is a captain and they get free tickets..and then they have that attitude that they are God's gift to aviation just because there parents raised them to love it (or brainwashed).

 

[CA1900]

Not really, but please don't carry the "My Daddy is a UAL Captain and makes over 200K per year, and thats what I'm gonna do too" attitude into ERAU.

The odds of anyone getting into this industry now and making over $200K at a major are slim to none -- our young student needs to know that. When you get there, you will never make the kind of money your dad makes as an airline pilot right now. That's the sad reality. The industry, and the pay, will never be what it was, and it's still on its way downhill.

If you're getting into this for the love of flying, have at it; it's the only thing that keeps most of us in it through all the BS in this business. If you're getting into this for the money, re-think it. Odds are you won't see six figures for over a decade, and having ERAU on your degree will not change that.

 

[J.C.Airborne]

The odds of anyone getting into this industry now and making over $200K at a major are slim to none -- our young student needs to know that. When you get there, you will never make the kind of money your dad makes as an airline pilot right now. That's the sad reality. The industry, and the pay, will never be what it was, and it's still on its way downhill.

If you're getting into this for the love of flying, have at it; it's the only thing that keeps most of us in it through all the BS in this business. If you're getting into this for the money, re-think it. Odds are you won't see six figures for over a decade, and having ERAU on your degree will not change that.

I may help a little...but probably not at all.

 

[jws717]

my mother and father are paying so ofcorse i will go ther and my father went there . now he is a commercial pilot for United airlines and i will replace the baby boomers then i have connections into the indusry. and if it dont work out then what ever i can fig it out from there im strong and i can get througha nyhting[/quote

I feel sory for your instructors, Academic and CFI

 

[jws717]

i feel sory for you

 

[Alex429595]

why do you keep trying to put me down? what have i done to you?

Honestly, why are you guys (im not going to name any names GK rangers and JC) giving him so much crap? He hasn't really said or done anything out of place.

Lay off.

Its one thing when someone says something stupid and an experienced airline/corporate pilot puts them in their place. Its another thing when a couple of airheads like you two start giving him crap for no reason.

 

[J.C.Airborne]

Honestly, why are you guys (im not going to name any names GK rangers and JC) giving him so much crap? He hasn't really said or done anything out of place.

Lay off.

Its one thing when someone says something stupid and an experienced airline/corporate pilot puts them in their place. Its another thing when a couple of airheads like you two start giving him crap for no reason.

So its ok for an airline captain to give him crap but not us because we arent worthy of it? What...we cant have opinions now just because we are in college? Why dont you castrate yourself and kiss their feet while your at it alex...your putting these guys on pedistals, just because they are farther along in our chosen career field doesnt mean we have to bow down to them.

 

[J.C.Airborne]

Honestly, why are you guys (im not going to name any names GK rangers and JC) giving him so much crap? He hasn't really said or done anything out of place.

Lay off.

Its one thing when someone says something stupid and an experienced airline/corporate pilot puts them in their place. Its another thing when a couple of airheads like you two start giving him crap for no reason.

btw-putting something into bold isnt going to scare us...man, what...are you trying to show that your SUPER angry...or that you "really" mean it...come on man...lol...we get it...ppllleeeaaassseee sir...please dont bring out the big bad BOLD

 

[gkrangers]

As a Riddle rat myself, I think I'm more in tune with the culture here (at ERAU) than some airline pilot.

I was ignorant once too, but my eyes were opened.

 

[Alex429595]

So its ok for an airline captain to give him crap but not us because we arent worthy of it? What...we cant have opinions now just because we are in college? Why dont you castrate yourself and kiss their feet while your at it alex...your putting these guys on pedistals, just because they are farther along in our chosen career field doesnt mean we have to bow down to them.

Its called learning to respect those that are smarter, more experienced, and (the real key word here) more mature than you. You have a long way to go.

Take that above post for example. I have no idea what are trying to say. It seems to be some sort of primitive insult, but with all the gramatical errors and misspellings, I can't even comprehend it.

 

[TrafficInSight]

I have no idea what are trying to say.

hahahaha, it never fails.

 

[J.C.Airborne]

hahahaha, it never fails.

what never fails?

 

[gkrangers]

what never fails?

Alex rips you for coherency and then flubs up his own sentence.

 

[J.C.Airborne]

Alex rips you for coherency and then flubs up his own sentence.

another case of [open mouth] [insert foot]

 

[iLR60Mac]

Of all the rips, cutdowns, and smart mouth remarks being made to the young guy who started this thread, there is one thing to remember. This career choice that you have made WILL become a job. Like every JOB it will have it's complaints. Especially, when you have 3 or 4 hours to sit in a plane to think about what pisses you off.

Welcome to our world. No matter what route we all took to get to where we are, most of us now have jobs, not paid hobbies. I hope this makes some since. We are pilots. We complain. We pick on each other. Those who cannot take the ribbing....well, they don't last long in this business.

 

[gearjockey]

All future Riddle enrollees, transfers, please be sure to check out the new Film Study/Cinematography project which I am currently petitioning for Bachelor of Arts Status. A major film director with the initials GL received a copy of our latest endeavor and is believed to be interested in becoming a benefactor if not sponsor. Please don't hesitate to stop by our booth during the spring and fall ERAU enrollment seminars on campus at AFROTC.

 

[gkrangers]

I'm all for diversifying the degree programs here...but Cinematography?

 

[mocaman]

A few questions for airforceusaf:

1. Where in the frick did you learn how to spell?
2. Are you foreign?
3. What does "Dad" fly for United? How long has he been there?

Look man, I am not trying to pick on you. I suck at writing, but it seems that you can't write for shite. I am also trying to figure out if you are a Flamer...

 

[kf4amu]

I've been going to (and hating) this school since 2000. Financial problems forced me to take a couple years off. Now I'm back as a full time staff member getting free tuition to finish my degree. I've switched from Aero Sci to Aeronautics so I dont have to pay ridiculous flight costs. However I did get my instrument and commercial ratings here in 2000 and 2001 and the instruction was top notch.

If I had to do it all over again I would go to the local FBO with a good rep and do ALL my ratings while going to community college for at least one year, possibly 2. Transfer in, they will accept ALL ratings received prior to matriculation so you can still get the Aero Sci degree without flying on campus.

Theres ALOT of BS here, but I'm a firm believer in finishing what I started. Aside from this board, you gain automatic respect in many aviation circles by attending Riddle. I've experienced it first hand.

But if you come in here expecting that you're gonna be the best, and a badass, you will become one of those jackasses that I hate, that permeate this place.

I have a personal rule not to talk about planes or flying when I'm drinking. I destroy anybody around me who does. I'm so sick of being in bars listening to pencil dicked losers discuss how crazy their last instrument approach was. Listen you tool, at Riddle they dont let you do anything crazy, shut up.

Sorry for the rant, but as long as you keep a normal life outside of this school, you'll get respect.

There is no college life on this campus, your best bet is to move off campus as quickly as possible and get a job so you can meet people that have nothing to do with Riddle.

And the AFROTC program here is very good. 2 good friends went through it and are very successful.

 

[merikeyegro]

Hmmm...You hated this place so much that you...decided to become a full-time staff member. Boy, if that ain't just hypocrisy, I don't know what is. Go somewhere else, please. I'm begging you. God, I hope you don't work for me...Anonymity is a pain.

I've been here for a number of years as a flight instructor. Yes, the place has its drawbacks. Yes, some people hate the sims. However, some people think that flying is too expensive and they'd be bitching about that instead. Are we perfect? Nope. Are the people at Financial Aid helpful? Nope. Cheap tuition? Nope.

However, we're working on it. The problem is turning around a corporate culture that has expected others to conform to their idea of what is good and what is not. In the past year alone, ERAU has done the following to its Daytona Beach campus to address your concerns:

- ousted the top management (chairman, Chief CFI, and one Asst Chief CFI) of the Flight Department and streamlined the management structure

- ousted the President of the university and replaced him with very down-to-earth, no-BS guy intent on redirecting the $ to campus improvements and not to misguided programs like CAPT

- appointed a new Chancellor to the DB Campus (Dr. Tom Connolly - former Associate Dean of the College of Aviation and a really nice guy)

- redesigned the flight curriculum to offer more choices in curriculum; expect to see a single-engine AND multi-engine track available to all students, along with an option to fast-track your training (if you qualify, you'll fly 5-6 days per week instead of 3)

After all of this is said and done, we typically hire many of our own students as CFIs, where the pay is much better than your average flight school for the predictability of work that you get (you don't have to find your own students). Our CFIs start at $14.72/hour and top at about $22/hour with full faculty benefits, including free tuition. I got a graduate degree from ERAU free of charge. Not bad for a CFI. Can UND offer the same? I'm actually curious, as I don't know...

Don't discount the fact that ERAU graduates are everywhere. Somewhere else on this board someone mentioned pilots at interviews being ERAU grads. This is certainly true east of the Mississippi for DAB grads. West is true for PSC grads. Everywhere you fly you hear an ATC controller talking about how he attended back in '85. You'll meet pilots everywhere that will help you get a job. Again, perfect? Nope. Perhaps we need to work on managing our expectations...

Everyone on this campus is eerily aware of how poor customer service has been for too long and the leadership in place now has the attitude that you either will go along with improving the student experience or you will be slowly worked out of the system. It's gonna take a few years to fix it, but we're on our way. Yes, we're actually doing this.

As far as DB itself is concerned, it's much nicer now than it was when I got here...which isn't saying much. Still plenty of not-nice places, but you can avoid them quite easily. It's not as if you have gangs rolling down International Speedway Boulevard during the races. I lived in town for 5 years before moving north and am glad to be out, but I never feared for my safety when living in town. It's just a little too crazy with the bikes, races, and tourists. Like it or not, it's a tourist economy here with a ton of small colleges. It grows on you...unless you're homesick, in which case you'd even hate nice places like Denver, Minneapolis, DC, NYC, etc.

In any case, the bashing here is a little exaggerated but founded at least in some fact. Just know that we're doing our part to try to improve things a bunch. Not just a little. It needs to be more affordable with better service and a better experience. Period. It'll take some years to get there, however. In the meantime, really a pretty good school. And the AS degree can be worth it, if only for the internships (which help you get jobs at lower mins later).

Have fun and flame away.