Who Is Going Or Will Be Going To Embry Riddle

[J.C.Airborne]

The #1 reason why I have never taken one flight on campus. I cannot put up with the flight department BS...so little actual flying..so much sim crap. I'm not going to practice steep turns and slowflight in a 172 simulator! Even cross countries!! They are nucking futs!

Sims suck...and it pisses me off when flight departments make flying in sims a mandatory part of the training curriculum (unless its atc, they are actually good sims). Flying sims demonstrate very little about what it actually feels like to fly (unless its full motion which few are).

 

[gkrangers]

there isnt anything wrong with parents paying for college, but i find that generally speaking kids who dont pay their own way tend to slack off knowing its not their money they are wasting. I believe there is something to be said for earning it on your own, but then again 100K in debt is never fun.

For some people its true. For others its not...I know the value of a dollar, and I'm working my ass off to make the best use of the money my parents are spending. I'll be CFIng at 19, which is something I'm really proud of and will really help my career, getting such an early start. And I couldn't have done that without my parents so graciously footing the bill.

I know what you are saying tho..some kids are just douchebags and piss away the money. One of my instructors CFI-I students has done SIXTY hours of II training!!!!! She is refusing to fly with him anymore until he starts doing ground and teaching lessons. Hes just throwing away money on something that shoulda taken maybe 10 hours! I try to make every minute in the air count...I've got around 225 hours I think, 150 of that is XC..."real" flying like this is invaluable IMO. I don't want anything to think I'm being arrogant, but I think its really important to spend a signifcant amount of time just flying places, instead of tooling around buzzing your buddies house.

 

[gkrangers]

Sims suck...and it pisses me off when flight departments make flying in sims a mandatory part of the training curriculum (unless its atc, they are actually good sims). Flying sims demonstrate very little about what it actually feels like to fly (unless its full motion which few are).

Flying instruments in a sim doesn't bother me, and it doesn't hurt to do a multi sim for a couple hours to get the single engine flows down, but outside of that, I don't see the point.

We have some nice ATC equipment here in Daytona...supposedly getting a new realistic mockup of a tower and a new tracon/artcc lab...already have both, but atleast all the money is going into cool stuff, heh.

 

[J.C.Airborne]

Flying instruments in a sim doesn't bother me, and it doesn't hurt to do a multi sim for a couple hours to get the single engine flows down, but outside of that, I don't see the point.

We have some nice ATC equipment here in Daytona...supposedly getting a new realistic mockup of a tower and a new tracon/artcc lab...already have both, but atleast all the money is going into cool stuff, heh.

Yeah i heard you guys were getting some cool stuff...we recently got a new 360 degree tower sim. Pretty sweet, we also got a new radar lab last summer. Life is good for ATC. Your right about the sims, they are good for instrument flying...but anything other than that and it pisses me off, and the ones we have at UND are very touchy...you move the yoke in the slightest and all of a sudden your doing a barrel roll...not at all like it is in real life. I also acknowledge that alot of people out there understand the value of what their parents are doing for them when they pay for college...to those people i can only be envious..because im paying for all mine...and it does suck. btw-cfi at 19 is pretty damn impressive, congrats.

 

[gkrangers]

The flight school I use has one sim and its so bad its free...you just pay for the instructor. "Flying" it with 2 engines is hilarious...its so freakin touchy. Fail an engine and it takes a half hour to get the thing stable again. I think I ended up inverted and flying backwards on a single engine ILS..but I did make it to the DH all centered up somehow....

 

[Alex429595]

(aero sci = worthless)

A degree is what you make of it- To me, my commercial aviation degree (UNDs equivaliant of the aeronautical science degree) will be worth every penny. Study what you like: I don't have the exact statistics, but a very high number of people are not employed in the field they majored in. I can't think of any parents/relatives/friends who are employed in what they majored in. The bottom line is that it doesnt really matter to anyone else what you major in. The airlines/corporate operators just want to see that you went to college, and spent a few years learning, studying, and the what not. You think that a business degree earned now is going to be worth jack in 10 years? Things change, rapidly. Also, I doubt anyone is going to recall everything they learned down the road. A degree in business, or anything else for that matter as a "backup" is a little bit half baked, IMO. Just get a degree, in something you want to spend a few years studying. Down the road, it really won't matter what you majored in.

 

[Alex429595]

The flight school I use has one sim and its so bad its free...you just pay for the instructor. "Flying" it with 2 engines is hilarious...its so freakin touchy. Fail an engine and it takes a half hour to get the thing stable again. I think I ended up inverted and flying backwards on a single engine ILS..but I did make it to the DH all centered up somehow....

I can't speak for anyone else, but we have fairly decent sims here at UND. Sure they are a bit touchy, but it makes you all the better at flying. The idea is if you can fly it in the sim, you can fly it in the plane. Remember, time in the sim counts toward some time towards the rating, and its cheaper than being in a plane.

 

[gkrangers]

I can't speak for anyone else, but we have fairly decent sims here at UND. Sure they are a bit touchy, but it makes you all the better at flying. The idea is if you can fly it in the sim, you can fly it in the plane. Remember, time in the sim counts toward some time towards the rating, and its cheaper than being in a plane.

Airplane > sim...bottom line.

 

[chperplt]

A degree is what you make of it- To me, my commercial aviation degree (UNDs equivaliant of the aeronautical science degree) will be worth every penny.

It's worth every penny if you can stay employed as a pilot until you retire. If a medical or furlough situation is in your future, that degree will become worthless.

 

[gkrangers]

A degree is what you make of it- To me, my commercial aviation degree (UNDs equivaliant of the aeronautical science degree) will be worth every penny. Study what you like: I don't have the exact statistics, but a very high number of people are not employed in the field they majored in. I can't think of any parents/relatives/friends who are employed in what they majored in. The bottom line is that it doesnt really matter to anyone else what you major in. The airlines/corporate operators just want to see that you went to college, and spent a few years learning, studying, and the what not. You think that a business degree earned now is going to be worth jack in 10 years? Things change, rapidly. Also, I doubt anyone is going to recall everything they learned down the road. A degree in business, or anything else for that matter as a "backup" is a little bit half baked, IMO. Just get a degree, in something you want to spend a few years studying. Down the road, it really won't matter what you majored in.

I agree that you should major in something you want to study, but if you can major in something with a career opportunities, you should do so. An AS degree isn't going to land you a job...

 

[J.C.Airborne]

I can't speak for anyone else, but we have fairly decent sims here at UND. Sure they are a bit touchy, but it makes you all the better at flying. The idea is if you can fly it in the sim, you can fly it in the plane. Remember, time in the sim counts toward some time towards the rating, and its cheaper than being in a plane.

actually no, when calculating TT you cant use those sim flights. thats why in the log books they have another columm for sim flights.

 

[HAZ-MAT]

actually no, when calculating TT you cant use those sim flights. thats why in the log books they have another columm for sim flights.

That is a false statement... I'm not going to look it up in the Regs or anything, but I know what you said is untrue.
I believe its something like 20 hours can be used towards your instrument rating.

 

[gkrangers]

That is a false statement... I'm not going to look it up in the Regs or anything, but I know what you said is untrue.
I believe its something like 20 hours can be used towards your instrument rating.

15 I think, but I'm too lazy to look it up too.

 

[jws717]

To anyone considering ERAU, go to a community college the first 2 years, save tons of $$$ for your flying. And if you think ERAU is the only place to learn how to fly, Broward Community College students have taken top pilot from ERAU two years in a row at the NIFA regional safecon. (it wasent the same guy 2x.) They wont tell you that when they toot their flight team on the tour. The ERAU extended campuses are also one of the best kept secrets. Flight instruct by day go to school at night, and you will be a graduate by 21 with the time and degree to get a good job (RJ or corp). With 1/2 the debt or better scholarship money left over! plus no anoying rayban dorks!!!

 

[landlover]

i think it is 15 for the IFR and 50 for the comm certificate.

Thing about sims(frasca142..etc..), usually are more sensitive than a real airplane intentionally. Thus making your scan stronger once you get in a a real airplane in real IMC.

 

[HAZ-MAT]

Thus making your scan stronger once you get in a a real airplane in real IMC.

Thus making you have the masturbation grip on the yoke making the flight instructor want to puke... :beer:

 

[VNugget]

The #1 reason why I have never taken one flight on campus. I cannot put up with the flight department BS...so little actual flying..so much sim crap. I'm not going to practice steep turns and slowflight in a 172 simulator! Even cross countries!! They are nucking futs!

Wait what, are you serious?

That's like "practicing" f*cking your girlfriend by watching scrambled porn... in a bodycast.

Oh well, at least your aviation program has flying airplanes... something I can't claim.

 

[MKaprocki]

From the perspective of a worthless Aero Sci student:

I know 1 or 2 of the typical ERAU "dorks" that cause the whole reputation. 99% of the AS students I know are normal students and dislike the dorks as much as everyone here. I don't pretend to be god's gift to aviation, and neither do the other students or instructors.

I can't comment about the newest syllabus, but in my 4 years here I have a total of 18 hours of sim time. 13 of that is from Stage 1 of instrument training. All of stage 1 was in the sim to give the student a basic understanding of the scan. The rest is from 4 flights during multi training. While not the most real sims, I do see the benefit during the training. It's not like half of the time is in sims.

Is Aero Sci (Proffssional Pilot) the best choice for a major? Of course not. But I am happy with the training I have received, from both the flight department and the normal classes.

I grew up in the Daytona/Orlando area. Not the most exciting place in the world, but it's home to me.


Bottom line:
I'm extremely happy with the training I've received, both as a pilot and a college student. I feel ready to enter the working world well prepared. Is it the best school in the world? Of course not. Is a pilot degree the best idea? Again, nope. But I'm happy with Riddle. It's not as bad as most people here make it out to be.

 

[MFRskyknight]

Listen, unless mommy and daddy are footing the bill for college...go to UND...its loads cheaper and youll meet alot more women...

They have women in North Dakota?

 

[Alex429595]

It's worth every penny if you can stay employed as a pilot until you retire. If a medical or furlough situation is in your future, that degree will become worthless.

I don't think we are thinking on the same page here. I do not consider my college degree to be specific job training at all. My mother majored in semiotics at Brown, and then got a degree in accounting from Bryant and is now a CPA. Does that make her degree in semiotics worthless? I think of a college degree as four years of learning how to learn, and learning how to be an adult. Learning how to get up on time, make appointments, and learning how to stick to commitments. Choosing a specific major, for me anyhow, just makes the process more interesting to my brain. If, at the end of these four years, I decide to become certified in real esate, and do not pursue a career as a commercial pilot, I will not feel as if I have chosen the wrong major at all. Its important to go to college. People put WAY too much emphasis on the exact major.