Tinstaafl
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Actually it's more like 60,000 GBP for many of these 0 to CPL/instrument/ATPL exams (aka known as 'frozen ATPL'), plus the 2000 pound 'multi-crew cooperation course' (MCC) that was introduced by the Joint Aviation Authoties. No such requirement in the US.
In many ways it's *easier* to get work approval at least somewhere in Europe. There are many, many countries so many people from overseas can find some claim to being acceptable somewhere. Don't forget to include the numerous colonies/ex-colonies who have a claim, grand-parent eligibility in the UK etc etc. Widening the region somewhat, Australia has a points system: if you can produce sufficient reasons (all weighted on a points system) to add up to 100 points then you're in. Some things that count: Education level, relatives already in the country, skills/qualifications that are promulgated by the government as being 'in demand'.
Similarly, if you marry a citizen from one of the European countries, Australia, New Zealand etc then there's usually minimal paperwork or delay to gain living & working approval - unlike the US where it can take a year or more. 6 months just to be approved to enter the US as a fiance(e), another 6 months to a year to finally be allowed to stay, not able to leave the country without applying, and paying for, 'advanced parole' or the whole application process is cancelled, as is the ability to re-enter the US.
I strongly suspect those who say it's not fair, it's so much easier to get into the US, they're taking jobs etc are those who have never been involved in the process, either to emmigrate or immigrate, nor do they have credible information about the numbers of US pilots flying elsewhere in the world. Ever consider that expat US pilots are doing the same?
In many ways it's *easier* to get work approval at least somewhere in Europe. There are many, many countries so many people from overseas can find some claim to being acceptable somewhere. Don't forget to include the numerous colonies/ex-colonies who have a claim, grand-parent eligibility in the UK etc etc. Widening the region somewhat, Australia has a points system: if you can produce sufficient reasons (all weighted on a points system) to add up to 100 points then you're in. Some things that count: Education level, relatives already in the country, skills/qualifications that are promulgated by the government as being 'in demand'.
Similarly, if you marry a citizen from one of the European countries, Australia, New Zealand etc then there's usually minimal paperwork or delay to gain living & working approval - unlike the US where it can take a year or more. 6 months just to be approved to enter the US as a fiance(e), another 6 months to a year to finally be allowed to stay, not able to leave the country without applying, and paying for, 'advanced parole' or the whole application process is cancelled, as is the ability to re-enter the US.
I strongly suspect those who say it's not fair, it's so much easier to get into the US, they're taking jobs etc are those who have never been involved in the process, either to emmigrate or immigrate, nor do they have credible information about the numbers of US pilots flying elsewhere in the world. Ever consider that expat US pilots are doing the same?
