White House & Capitol Evacuated

[airspeed]

Noone deserves that. What about if U made the mistake?

 

[TDTURBO]

Noone deserves that. What about if U made the mistake?

Maybe I was a little harsh, but all you need is a GPS to keep you out of harms way. What this plane has single handedly done is ruin it for everyone else flying GA. I think he should never fly again and consider himself REAL lucky he is alive. How stupid can you be to fly over the White House anyway? Lost or not, if you are that dumb, you shouldn't be flying or have kids to further propagate a polluted gene pool. Maybe if people knew they would get shot down if the TFR was violated, we would have less violations which limit our freedoms as GA pilots in the US. It's always one or two idiots that ruin it for everybody else, get rid of the idiots, gets rid of the problems. Harsh yes, but effective.

As far as me making that mistake, only if I was incapacitated due to a heart attack or stroke. I would willingly kill myself if I was that stupid.

 

[airspeed]

I am sorry to hear that, I think you show alot of anger. When emotions influence decisions it sometimes can be pretty bad. Like I stated I am sure that it was a mistake and however big and I do agree big mistake it was your proposal of shooting down and killing innocent people because of a mistake, well if thats the case lets invent the thought police while we are at it. Some MIT grad can come up with an implant that will relay in real time your thoughts to the TSA, FBI, CIA, etc. IF your thoughts are to go bomb or kill government agents you will be terminated instantly by an implant on your nuts. I think many people have those thoughts come April 15th every year!!

 

[TonyC]

This is a joke right?

Are you telling me that a student pilot can take another student pilot up for joy rides?

That's like the blind leading the blind but it wouldn't surprise me coming from the incompetent FAA.

No, the joke is your reading comprehension.

Here's what I said:

A private pilot is allowed to carry a passenger, even if the passenger happens to be a student pilot.

Now, the subject of the above sentence is "a private pilot." A private pilot is one who holds a certificate that allows him to operate certain airplanes under certain conditions. He is not allowed to operate his airplane for hire, but he is allowed to carry passengers. He can even carry passengers that happen to be student pilots.

YOU were the one who erroneously substituted "student pilot" for "private pilot." It was simple, therefore, to tear down the straw argument you constructed. I didn't say it - - you made it up.

When gkrangers tried to correct you, scolded him, directing him to "read it again." You're the one that needs help reading - - you should have listened to him.

I suggest you sharpen up on your "English skills," as you say, and while you're at it, you might work on your logic skills, as well.


I'm rather surprised you're not praising these guys for acquiring valuable experience in handling intercepts by F-16s, just in case they ever need to invoke their services for real.

"Incompetent FAA"?!?!? HA!


pot ... kettle ...



Now, about what YOU said here ...

I do realize that the student pilot can take up a licensed pilot as long as he has a current medical ...

Are you saying a student pilot can take a passenger?

 

[TDTURBO]

For a military pilot, you sure have a lot to learn. Do you think you are able to shoot down an airliner loaded with hundreds of innocent people? You better be, because that is policy if a commercial or private plane violates TFR's over highly sensitive areas with unknown intentions. If you don't like it, then get out of the military.

It has nothing to do with my feelings, it's for the good of society. The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few or the one. If you do the crime, you do the time.

 

[TDTURBO]

No, the joke is your reading comprehension.

Here's what I said:



Now, the subject of the above sentence is "a private pilot." A private pilot is one who holds a certificate that allows him to operate certain airplanes under certain conditions. He is not allowed to operate his airplane for hire, but he is allowed to carry passengers. He can even carry passengers that happen to be student pilots.

YOU were the one who erroneously substituted "student pilot" for "private pilot." It was simple, therefore, to tear down the straw argument you constructed. I didn't say it - - you made it up.

When gkrangers tried to correct you, scolded him, directing him to "read it again." You're the one that needs help reading - - you should have listened to him.

I suggest you sharpen up on your "English skills," as you say, and while you're at it, you might work on your logic skills, as well.


I'm rather surprised you're not praising these guys for acquiring valuable experience in handling intercepts by F-16s, just in case they ever need to invoke their services for real.

"Incompetent FAA"?!?!? HA!


pot ... kettle ...



Now, about what YOU said here ...

Are you saying a student pilot can take a passenger?

Yes I am, only if the student pilot is carrying a passenger that is a current pilot with an active medical, the way it sounded, you implied that a student pilot could carry passengers that are not rated. We already went over this and I admitted my mis-understanding. If that isn't good enough, then too bad.

 

[airspeed]

I have been out of the military for a longtime, and I am glad I was never faced with that situation. Maybe you should become a talk show hosts, you sound like you might be related to Morton Downey JR!

 

[TonyC]

Are you saying a student pilot can take a passenger?

Yes I am, only if the student pilot is carrying a passenger that is a current pilot with an active medical, ...

Thank you for clarifying. On this point, also, you are wrong. Reference Federal Aviation Regulation Part 61 CERTIFICATION: PILOTS, FLIGHT INSTRUCTORS, AND GROUND INSTRUCTORS Subpart C--Student Pilots Sec. 61.89 General Limitaions

(a) A student pilot may not act as pilot in command of an aircraft:
(1) That is carrying a passenger;

(emphasis added for the English impaired)

There are no exceptions to this regulation of which I am aware. Can you enlighten us?

... you implied that a student pilot could carry passengers that are not rated.

I implied nothing of the sort. Do I need to go back and highlight with italics, boldface, and underline the sentence you seem to have trouble reading?

A private pilot is allowed to carry a passenger, even if the passenger happens to be a student pilot.

There. I even threw in a different color for free. Only an idiot could say that I implied a student pilot could carry passengers, period.


Wait - - you're the one who claims student pilots can carry passengers.


Never mind.

We already went over this and I admitted my mis-understanding. If that isn't good enough, then too bad.

No, what you did was say, "Ok Gk, that's what I thought you meant" to gkrangers when he said he could not find the misinterpretation that you found. Acknowledging what he said is not equivalent to admitting that you were wrong.


English...


FARs...


What is it that you do for a living?!?!?







.

 

[millhouse21]

That was beautiful. Thank you.

 

[bigD]

Yes I am, only if the student pilot is carrying a passenger that is a current pilot with an active medical, the way it sounded, you implied that a student pilot could carry passengers that are not rated. We already went over this and I admitted my mis-understanding. If that isn't good enough, then too bad.

I work for a guy that's not a pilot. His company employs me to be a passenger in his airplane. So I guess you can say that even with no pilot certificate, he's allowed to carry passengers as long as one of them meets the requirements to fly his plane, and that person is sitting up front.