WHICH PLANE? A320 or 737

[71KILO]

Are y'all serious? You are really into the whole "American thing?" Me too, but I own a shee-eyet ton of things that aren't made in this country. Where was you ipod made? Your coffee maker? Your alarm clock? Your weed eater? How about the dang computer I am typing on? I cannot believe this thread even exists considering it took me all night getting foshizziled to waste my time and post on this thread. This topic is as retarded as a Honda vs. Ford thread. And don't give me that crap about a product being built somewhere else but the profits coming home to America.

Besides, chics dig planes with foreign accents.

Dude, it's a Dell...

 

[boeingdriver213]

Haven't flown the Airbus, but it looks comfortable up front, I know it's comfortable in back, but give me the reliability of a Boeing any day. Oh, and by the way, BUY AMERICAN!

 

[Hair-on-Fire]

Haven't flown the Airbus, but it looks comfortable up front, I know it's comfortable in back, but give me the reliability of a Boeing any day. Oh, and by the way, BUY AMERICAN!

If you haven't flown one, how do you know they're less reliable?

 

[Hair-on-Fire]

Wait, I'll look it up myself.

737: http://www.boeing.com/commercial/news/feature/banking.html

What does the data tell Boeing?
"For some time now, the 737 has been leading its direct competition," Hayes said. "In fact, the data shows that the 737 fleet, with 99.3 percent gate dispatch reliability, might be THE most reliable airplane flying today. This means passengers who fly on a 737 are leaving on time, and getting to their destination when they're supposed to."

A320: http://investor.jetblue.com/ireye/ir_site.zhtml?ticker=JBLU&script=410&layout=-6&item_id=714823

JetBlue was awarded the prestigious Award for Operational Excellence for having attained, over the past two years, a 99.43 percent technical dispatch reliability, the highest percent of all carriers worldwide with a fleet of more than 50 Airbus A320 Family aircraft. In 2003, JetBlue received this award as an operator with a fleet size of fewer than 50 aircraft.

Best info I could find. Certainly JBLU is not every 320 operator around the world, but I think we can assume that both types operate with comparable reliability.

 

[Patriot328]

What follows is in regards to comfort and ease of use. I don't know nor do I have access to dispatch rates and all that whatnot...


I've flown the 320 series, but never the 737. I will say, comparing the 320 series to the Boeing 757/767 series, the bus wins hands down in the comfort level. There really is no comparison in the ergonomics of the Airbus. You can debate til the end of time about the pilot/aircraft interface, FBW and all that, but the bus is flat out more comfortable, and not having a dam&* yoke in the way is a nice touch. Roomy cockpit, relatively comfortable seats, plenty of room to stretch out.. it's a nice ride.

To be fair, I'm comparing a brand new off the assembly line A319 to a 25yr old design 757. The bus SHOULD be better, or someone isn't doing their job.

Boeing screwed up by not updating the 737 more... they could have made the NGs a much nicer ride for the guys up front, but some airline decided it's still the pilot's responsibility to close the fields on the generators and whatever archaic crap y'all do on that overhead panel.

In the back, the bus is more comfortable and quieter (to my ears) than the 737-800 series. This is coming from a couple of years of riding DAL up to LGA from DCA and using USAir for the ride home. The bus lands softer, too, but that might be the large number of navy boys at Delta..

 

[Snoopy58]

The Jet Blue fleet is still pretty new, while the total 737 fleet averages at least one decade, maybe two, with jets back to the 1960's still in service. If you have to use a new fleet of Airbus jets still under warranty to match the dispatch reliability of a huge fleet of new-thru Jurrasic 737's, that does NOT show that the two aircraft are comparably reliable over their lifecycles. (The JetBlue quote says that their fleet was the best worldwide, which begs the question of how low did the # get when you start looking at jets whose average age matches the 737 fleet?)

 

[Doug Parker]

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The A320 series is 40% American made components............

I wonder what percentage of the Boeing is foreign made ?





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[HighSpeedClimb]

Come on guys, why do you think they call it the scare bus.. The skin of the A/C is 3 times thinner than the 737!

 

[FL420]

My ideal airliner would be the Airbus cockpit, fuselage and systems mated to the wings, landing gear, brakes and Rolls Royce engines of the 757.

 

[bigboeings]

I fly the 767 worldwide with VERY little maintenance issues. We take a mechanic along with us, and had some conversations with them about the Airbus. A few of them do some part time work on the AB. Their comments are " The Airbus is everyones favorite airplane, the pilots because of the fancy cockpit, and the mechanics because they get so much overtime" I think that sums it up.

 

[Fearless Leader]

Boeing/Bus

Have to agree with what the engineers say about this whole issue of Boeing/Bus.
Bus makes aircraft easier to work on, but have to do a whole lot more to them, then the comparable Boeing product.

Parts wear out quicker on the Bus and need to be replaced more frequently.
Boeing just keep going and going and going and going.................

 

[Gorilla]

Parts wear out quicker on the Bus and need to be replaced more frequently.
Boeing just keep going and going and going and going.................

The Boeing pedigree dates back to WW2 and the amazing, massive battle damage the B-17 took and still managed to RTB, while the Liberator boys ended up being harassed by Col Klink and Sgt Shultz in some Luftstalag, if they survived at all.

Boeing knows how to build durable, strong aircraft and excellent redundant systems.

 

[Jetjockey]

Having flown both, (all three if including Douglas products), I'd take the Boeing.

To sum it up:

Airbus= comfort
Douglas=durability
Boeing=everything else.

 

[Saabslime]

Having the ability to cross my legs, recline like I'm in a lazy-boy chair, the room to get up and stretch on those long haul's, and eat my meals without balancing the tray on my lap is pricless. Whatever improves my quality of life while actually working has my vote and for that you just can't beat the bus.

All that other crap about engines, reliability, fms systems, etc. is just tech talk and doesn't amount to much in my book when choosing one airplane over another. For me it's all about the comfort level and not having to see the chiropractor every other week.

 

[fifty30retard]

Less filling!

 

[Dogwood]

I just got typed in the 320 and have not flown the 73. Pros and Cons which plane would you guys rather fly? and why?

Click,

I flew the 73 for about 10 years, and have about 5 years now on the bus. I think the boeing is a better built product, but I prefer the Bus just due to the decreased cockpit workload.

After a 4 day trip on the 73, I was worn out, but 4 days on the 320 series isn't any problem.

Quiter, bigger cockpit, better visibility, etc.

Recurrents are easier as well.

In the end, one has to choose the job for the company and where the crew bases are, not for what they fly.

Just my personal opinion ...

DW

 

[bigboeings]

My QOL would suffer immensely if I broke down in Bishkek or some or worse yet Lagos. Ill take the Boeing every time.

 

[Uppercrust]

A320. I like the feel of a stick better!

 

[furlough-boy]

My QOL would suffer immensely if I broke down in Bishkek or some or worse yet Lagos. Ill take the Boeing every time.

Maybe since you're a IRP you should go for the one with the most comfortable jumpseat.

 

[coogebeachhotel]

My QOL would suffer immensely if I broke down in Bishkek or some or worse yet Lagos. Ill take the Boeing every time.

O yes many US Airbus operators go there.

 

[smfav8r]

Having flown Boeings, Douglas, Airbus and that Canadian POS.....

I still like the one with the biggest paycheck and the most time at home!

Since the pay has dropped and the schedules continue to get worse....

None of them are worth flying anymore!

 

[Ralph Cramden]

Hey coogebeachhotel.

Tell your avatar's cooge to stop staring at me!

 

[flatspin7]

I'm all reality I will fly what ever some one wants to pay me.

 

[furlough-boy]

I'm all reality I will fly what ever some one wants to pay me.

English your first language?

 

[71KILO]

A320. I like the feel of a stick better!

you 'wood'

 

[Dennis Miller]

I still like the one with the biggest paycheck and the most time at home!

Agreed. This thread would be better posted "Which Payrate $190 or $125?".

 

[smfav8r]

Agreed. This thread would be better posted "Which Payrate $190 or $125?".

I'd fly a kite for 200K per year.

Who cares what you fly, it's all about the money and quality of life.

The CRJ is a POS because it doesn't pay...it's got nothing to do with the airplane...well maybe just a little.

 

[SWA/FO]

B737 baby!!

 

[bigboy]

A-320 all the way.

Although I hate to admit I'm not too crazy about the composite parts in the 320, or any airplane for that matter.

Bigboy.

 

[HighSpeedClimb]

If it aint Boeing, I aint going!