WHICH PLANE? A320 or 737

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Airbus

Shouldn't you have asked this question before you got typed in the Airbus, or did you not have a choice?

Airbus - "'tis automatique"

I wasnt buying a type rating in hopes of getting a job I was training for the plane that is sitting in the hangar....

 

[PHXFLYR]

Screw the French! If it ain't Boeing, I ain't going!

Patton once said (and I paraphrase): I would rather have a German division in front of me than a French division behind me.

That says it all...

If the only thing going is a plane built by Boeing,
I'd much rather take "the bus"


PHXFLYR

 

[CaptainMark]

I'll send you a French made white flag. I hear they have a government subsidized white flag factory in Toulouse right next to the Airbus factory and the never fired rifle factory.

just jokes Mark no need to get ugly...

i never get ugly..just even...actually my career is limited...light aircraft to lears to 727 to A300...i wrenched on the 727 so you can understand that my boeing experience is limited...but the bus has been good...but it looks like i will never fly one...probably end career on the A380..God willing!

 

[HighSpeedClimb]

How ironic this thread is. We want Virgin America to stay out, yet have no problem with a French product who is taking much business from an american company Boeing. The 737 is still the most produced narrow body A/C produced. Airbus has a long way to go before they even get close to catching up. Now, a 737-700ER will enter the market. If you were to get a type and had a choice, go with what most carriers around the world use.

BOEING

 

[Marko Ramius]

The 737 is still the most produced narrow body A/C produced. Airbus has a long way to go before they even get close to catching up.
BOEING

While technically true, this is a bit disingenious considering when the first A320 series a/c entered service vs. the first 737. Not taking anything away from the massive # of 737's Boeing has made, just saying often numbers are made to say what we want them to.

 

[rptrain]

Not taking anything away from the massive # of 737's Boeing has made, just saying often numbers are made to say what we want them to.

There are lies, dang lies, and statistics.

 

[AQ PILOT]

I gotta throw my 0.02 in here. Obviously, as an AQ pilot, I'm a Boeing guy. But I reallllllly want to fly the Airbus. I've talked to a bunch of guys who have and they all say the same thing. It has tons of room, a great place to stick your favorite FA (on the tray in front of you), and the reliability of the a/c is almost as high as said FA straddling your yoke...er, where your yoke should be.

No really! A whole bunch of room and no actual physical links to the aircraft control surfaces just rocks! The way my contract is written, the Airbus is nothing but a dream for me.

I guess the drawback is, I'm really into the whole American thing. I don't care if it's a Ford or a Boeing. I don't care if the company outsources 99.8% of its work. Boeing is more American than Airbus....period...

 

[Bavarian Chef]

Are y'all serious? You are really into the whole "American thing?" Me too, but I own a shee-eyet ton of things that aren't made in this country. Where was you ipod made? Your coffee maker? Your alarm clock? Your weed eater? How about the damn computer I am typing on? I cannot believe this thread even exists considering it took me all night getting foshizziled to waste my time and post on this thread. This topic is as retarded as a Honda vs. Ford thread. And don't give me that crap about a product being built somewhere else but the profits coming home to America.

Besides, chics dig planes with foreign accents.

 

[joevollers]

Are y'all serious? You are really into the whole "American thing?" Me too, but I own a shee-eyet ton of things that aren't made in this country. Where was you ipod made? Your coffee maker? Your alarm clock? Your weed eater? How about the dang computer I am typing on? I cannot believe this thread even exists considering it took me all night getting foshizziled to waste my time and post on this thread. This topic is as retarded as a Honda vs. Ford thread. And don't give me that crap about a product being built somewhere else but the profits coming home to America.

Besides, chics dig planes with foreign accents.

Well said.. look at how Boeing has failed to preserve jobs...

 

[71KILO]

i never get ugly..just even...actually my career is limited...light aircraft to lears to 727 to A300...i wrenched on the 727 so you can understand that my boeing experience is limited...but the bus has been good...but it looks like i will never fly one...probably end career on the A380..God willing!

Does that mean you won't write me an on-line rec or talk to an ACP for me?

I'll buy beer!....

 

[71KILO]

Are y'all serious? You are really into the whole "American thing?" Me too, but I own a shee-eyet ton of things that aren't made in this country. Where was you ipod made? Your coffee maker? Your alarm clock? Your weed eater? How about the dang computer I am typing on? I cannot believe this thread even exists considering it took me all night getting foshizziled to waste my time and post on this thread. This topic is as retarded as a Honda vs. Ford thread. And don't give me that crap about a product being built somewhere else but the profits coming home to America.

Besides, chics dig planes with foreign accents.

Dude, it's a Dell...

 

[boeingdriver213]

Haven't flown the Airbus, but it looks comfortable up front, I know it's comfortable in back, but give me the reliability of a Boeing any day. Oh, and by the way, BUY AMERICAN!

 

[Hair-on-Fire]

Haven't flown the Airbus, but it looks comfortable up front, I know it's comfortable in back, but give me the reliability of a Boeing any day. Oh, and by the way, BUY AMERICAN!

If you haven't flown one, how do you know they're less reliable?

 

[Hair-on-Fire]

Wait, I'll look it up myself.

737: http://www.boeing.com/commercial/news/feature/banking.html

What does the data tell Boeing?
"For some time now, the 737 has been leading its direct competition," Hayes said. "In fact, the data shows that the 737 fleet, with 99.3 percent gate dispatch reliability, might be THE most reliable airplane flying today. This means passengers who fly on a 737 are leaving on time, and getting to their destination when they're supposed to."

A320: http://investor.jetblue.com/ireye/ir_site.zhtml?ticker=JBLU&script=410&layout=-6&item_id=714823

JetBlue was awarded the prestigious Award for Operational Excellence for having attained, over the past two years, a 99.43 percent technical dispatch reliability, the highest percent of all carriers worldwide with a fleet of more than 50 Airbus A320 Family aircraft. In 2003, JetBlue received this award as an operator with a fleet size of fewer than 50 aircraft.

Best info I could find. Certainly JBLU is not every 320 operator around the world, but I think we can assume that both types operate with comparable reliability.

 

[Patriot328]

What follows is in regards to comfort and ease of use. I don't know nor do I have access to dispatch rates and all that whatnot...


I've flown the 320 series, but never the 737. I will say, comparing the 320 series to the Boeing 757/767 series, the bus wins hands down in the comfort level. There really is no comparison in the ergonomics of the Airbus. You can debate til the end of time about the pilot/aircraft interface, FBW and all that, but the bus is flat out more comfortable, and not having a dam&* yoke in the way is a nice touch. Roomy cockpit, relatively comfortable seats, plenty of room to stretch out.. it's a nice ride.

To be fair, I'm comparing a brand new off the assembly line A319 to a 25yr old design 757. The bus SHOULD be better, or someone isn't doing their job.

Boeing screwed up by not updating the 737 more... they could have made the NGs a much nicer ride for the guys up front, but some airline decided it's still the pilot's responsibility to close the fields on the generators and whatever archaic crap y'all do on that overhead panel.

In the back, the bus is more comfortable and quieter (to my ears) than the 737-800 series. This is coming from a couple of years of riding DAL up to LGA from DCA and using USAir for the ride home. The bus lands softer, too, but that might be the large number of navy boys at Delta..

 

[Snoopy58]

The Jet Blue fleet is still pretty new, while the total 737 fleet averages at least one decade, maybe two, with jets back to the 1960's still in service. If you have to use a new fleet of Airbus jets still under warranty to match the dispatch reliability of a huge fleet of new-thru Jurrasic 737's, that does NOT show that the two aircraft are comparably reliable over their lifecycles. (The JetBlue quote says that their fleet was the best worldwide, which begs the question of how low did the # get when you start looking at jets whose average age matches the 737 fleet?)

 

[Doug Parker]

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The A320 series is 40% American made components............

I wonder what percentage of the Boeing is foreign made ?





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[HighSpeedClimb]

Come on guys, why do you think they call it the scare bus.. The skin of the A/C is 3 times thinner than the 737!

 

[FL420]

My ideal airliner would be the Airbus cockpit, fuselage and systems mated to the wings, landing gear, brakes and Rolls Royce engines of the 757.

 

[bigboeings]

I fly the 767 worldwide with VERY little maintenance issues. We take a mechanic along with us, and had some conversations with them about the Airbus. A few of them do some part time work on the AB. Their comments are " The Airbus is everyones favorite airplane, the pilots because of the fancy cockpit, and the mechanics because they get so much overtime" I think that sums it up.