Where will ACA D328J pilots go next?

[frjmx328]

China purchesed the rights to the 728, sad.....

 

[TechRep]

IMO D'Long will produce the 728-200 and Envoy 7 in Germany, then slowly begin to pull production cells over to China. The Chinese will cry high production costs in Germany and the inability to remain competitive with Bombardier and Embraer. The Chinese will pull all of the production activity away from Germany until they are left with only product Support, Marketing and Sales.

Since Dornier has a history of substandard customer support, they will screw that up as well and it will probably be moved to France or the United States. Did you know that Dornier was last in customer support behind two defunct OEM's? BAE and Fokker.....

The Germans will then be the bitches for the Chinese selling and supporting a now Chinese aircraft, designed by the them. The Germans sold away their last remaining aircraft manufacturing company for that there is no excuse.

This is only my opinion of course but a very intimate opinion with an inside perspective. If you would like we can start a thread about this and my feelings....LOL

See my EBAY sale for rare Do728 Specification CD.

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TechRep

 

[jetflyer]

Skyway will get the Dojets

The chief pilots are telling Comair pilots in the recurrent grounds that the DoJets are going to Skyway. They said that Comair would have gotten them if nobody else wanted them, but that Skyway wants them pretty bad, so Delta's gonna let them have them.

They said a month ago Comair was actively pursuing the Dojets to gain the flying and replace them with RJs slowly, but now Comair won't get them at all.


Jet

 

[TechRep]

I dont want to be a told ya so but told ya so.

TechRep

 

[captainv]

i wouldn't be surprised if the Dojets go to Skyway, but just because it came out of a chief's mouth doesn't mean much. i've heard DFW was a lock for a base, then ATL was a lock for a base, just to name a few...

it's all a crapshoot until the planes go somewhere....

 

[On Your Six]

I have heard the rumor about Skyway too.

So, if this happens and you are a junior DoJet FO for ACA, should you now be preparing to rent an apartment in MKE in the coming 6-12 months? In other words, will the junior DoJet guys have little-to-no choice in the matter - is it adios to Independence Air? Will they have any ability to eventually fly for Indy Air?

 

[TechRep]

I would like to remind everyone that if this happened tommorrow, it would take a full year minimum to transfer the entire fleet.

TechRep

 

[frjmx328]

I don't get all of the emphsis on the junior Dojet F/O's. Like Techrep says, it wouldn't happen over night. Also, there may a wet lease to look at. That would aid in transition. Also, if there were layoffs the junior guys on the 41's would not be immune. The biggest problem is gonna be the transition to Indy, and a wet lease to whoever would greatly help. The crews CANNOT be sold with the aircraft, but like I said, a wet lease is more than possible. I'd be just as worried if I was a junior 41 guy, maybe even more so. Atleast the junior 328 guys may just be looking at an assignment with the Dojet until training slots in the RJ open up. What do the real junior 41 guys have?

 

[FDJ2]

What do the real junior 41 guys have?

That all depends on the ACA contract. I suppose a good start would be to look at the merger and fragmentation as well as the furlough sections of the ACA PWA.

 

[jobear]

That all depends on the ACA contract. I suppose a good start would be to look at the merger and fragmentation as well as the furlough sections of the ACA PWA.

Merger?

Jobear

 

[KingAirKiddo]

I honestly don't know what they will do....But whatever it is, it obviously will be the Mainline pilots' fault....

Bye Bye--General Lee [/B]

Obviously.

 

[General Lee]

Isn't it always the case!

Bye Bye-General Lee

 

[intoplanes]

I hear SkyWest is looking around for an A/C to use on some routes that has some performance to replace the EMB to places like JAC and SUN???

 

[KingAirKiddo]

I''ve heard very reliably that CMR is now (within the last week) being told to forget the ATL domicile and plan to "devote their resources to the Northeast". Read what you want into that.

Regarding the Doorknobs, I've also been told that Bombardier has offered DAL a trade in deal for CRJs.

I've been hearing BOS...uggh!

 

[pugshots]

So, who's getting ACA Dojet? Any news?

 

[vc10]

The 328JETs will go to Skyway almost certainly. That appears to be almost an open secret.

 

[~~~^~~~]

Skyway, AKA MidWest Express, Express. They operate 717's. As usual ALPA's scope has a lot more to do with keeping the "preferred" members in a position to out vote the "non preferred" members.

Why doesn't ACA challenge Delta's contract 2000 on anti trust grounds? Clearly the Delta pilots contracted to control the tools and methods of production. That is outside the anti trust exemption for labor agreements.

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[MedFlyer]

Why doesn't ACA challenge Delta's contract 2000 on anti trust grounds? Clearly the Delta pilots contracted to control the tools and methods of production. That is outside the anti trust exemption for labor agreements.

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ACA's not challenging it because they want to get rid of the 328's. The 328's aren't part of ACA's (now Indy Air) business plan and they are just a big liability. Being forced to dump them off on Skyway (or whoever) is a plus for ACA.

 

[ShadowFlight]

Skyway, AKA MidWest Express, Express. They operate 717's.
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Skyway Airlines is a wholly-owned subsidiary of Midwest Airlines and operates under a different certificate. Also, Midwest stopped using the name "Midwest Express Airlines" last year.

Skyway, flying as Midwest Connect, operates the 328 and 1900 while Midwest flies the 717 and MD80 series aircraft.

 

[g159av8tor]

It came out of an instructor brand training session Thursday from Bill Brown that additional furloughs are not necessary. With the Airbus delivery schedules, the current corps will be adequate.

Of course, he mentioned nothing about the DCI fiasco because details are scarce.

What was told to me...I only know what I was told.

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