Where do Ameriflight pilots end up?

[T Heavy]

if AMF wants pilots to stick around, they need to pay at least as much as Regional captains make (in my opinion, at least 50K for turboprops).
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Great Lakes yr 1 Beech FO : 15$/hr x 75 x 12 = 13500

Great lakes yr 1 Beech CA : 26 x 75 x 12 = 23400

23400+13500= 36900

1st year Amflight Metro/1900- $40,440!

Just remember AMF'ers when you see the Lake's 1900's, you're making more than both pilots combined!

Be Safe out there!
Barnyard

That is comedy...

Eatsleep said it best, if you come here do your training, do your job and just be patient you will find something that you like and likes you. In the mean time I still enjoy the look on other pilots face when I tell them I fly the Metro single pilot. Just never thought I would see the day of 6-9 months upgrades to it????????

Heavy

 

[time builder]

Sorry, didn't mean to strike a nerve on the Lance. Really guys, AMF does make you a better pilot, I agree 100%, but the "hard road" isn't exactly the most marketable thing for enticing new pilots. I'd like to see more pilots there too, not just to get guys on 4 day work weeks and improve moral, but also for a sustainable reserve.

I'd refer someone, but I only knew a couple guys with over 1200 hours without an airline job, but they weren't instrument proficient. They wouldn't survive training, let alone pass the sim eval.

 

[woog315]

Is staffing getting really tight at Ameriflight? In the last few days they have run ads on climbto350 for PIC positions on every aircraft they fly (except the emb120) in multiple domiciles.

I'd like to apply there in 6 months or so, but I don't think I will unless the pay improves some.

 

[Morettis]

Is staffing getting really tight at Ameriflight? In the last few days they have run ads on climbto350 for PIC positions on every aircraft they fly (except the emb120) in multiple domiciles.

I'd like to apply there in 6 months or so, but I don't think I will unless the pay improves some.

My advice, after flying freight for almost 3 years now, and as a metro captain, don't waste your time waiting to get 1200 hours. Go to a regional now. By the time you get to 1200 hours, you'd be almost to 2nd year pay which is better than 1st year 99 pay, and you'll be at 2nd year seniority which actually means something at an airline. Seniority counts for jack ******************** at AMF, the only thing you get is to pick which craphole you fly to for the day...

If I had to do it over, I'd have gone to a regional as soon as I could have.

 

[RefugePilot]

the only thing you get is to pick which craphole you fly to for the day...

Rock Springs is taking its toll on your enthusiasm.....

 

[EatSleepFly]

I'd like to apply there in 6 months or so, but I don't think I will unless the pay improves some.

Good, go to Flight Express, make $35k, and enjoy trying to get that fractional job you want while flying a 210.

Or come here, make more your first year than you would at a regional. Be willing to move around, and upgrade to a Metro/1900 within a year. After three years here, you've got enough turbine PIC to get what you want, and all three of those years, you've made more than you would spending three years as an F/O logging switch b!tch time at [insert $hithole regional here].

What exactly do you think you're entitled to with your 600 hours anyways?

The overwhelming majority of people who have moved on to the bigger and better things mentioned early on in the thread are people who stuck around for a few years and gotten enough experience to make it worthwhile. A year or two isn't going to cut it. When have you ever heard of anyone with 1200 hours going to a regional then on to a major in under three years? That's right, you haven't. You won't here either.

Like anything, what you get out of your time at AMF is a direct result of what you put into it. But hey, if we don't pay good enough for your holy experience level, feel free to join the other lemmings at the regionals making $19k a year.

 

[Boris Badenov]

Good, go to Flight Express, make $35k, and enjoy trying to get that fractional job you want while flying a 210.

Cheap shot. How about "Go to Flight Express, make $43k your first year, upgrade to the baron around 6 months, make $46k your second year, if you don't first get a job flying an MU-2, Metro, 99, or Bandit at another cargo company."

If I lived out west, I would have gone to Ameriflight. I would probably have gotten in bigger equipment faster, and I would certainly have made less money in doing so. As it was, I went to Flight Express and now I'm chasing the kerosene PIC dream as well. Ameriflight is by all accounts a good company, and I don't need to slag it to know that I made the right decision for myself. I will say this: I've had a lot of jobs both in and out of aviation. All told, FLX has been the best of them.

 

[EatSleepFly]

Wasn't meant to be a cheap shot at your company, I've heard they are great to work for. I was simply making a point. Sorry to offend.

 

[Boris Badenov]

s'okay. I just hear often about how "dead end" flying a 210 is. That rankles when you know it's not true. I know at least one guy who went from initial 210 training to MD-80 in about 3 years (you out there yzf?).

Anyway, sorry I got my back up. Let's return to discussing the wonderful well-lit places freight dogs can end up!

 

[RefugePilot]

Wasn't meant to be a cheap shot at your company, I've heard they are great to work for. I was simply making a point. Sorry to offend.

They weren't always a great company. I had a slot in school with them a year before I started with AMF, but another opportunity came up instead.

I heard about long hours, questionable MX, and pilot morale problems. They were having trouble getting and keeping pilots, but 40k+ a year is probably solving a lot of those issues.