When will Mesa be going out of business?

[siucavflight]

Just curious if you guys over there still think that Mesa will be going under?

 

[BrickTop]

As a former Mesa Employee, having moved onto other opportunites, I assure you if JO holds as CEO (unlikely the board wants him removed) Mesa will self destruct. If new directors came aboard its possible Mesa could restructure and survive. Personally I hope the place meltsdown all the way to China and takes JO with him.

 

[Poahi]

Mesa is kinda like a cockroach. I don't think it will close. People on this board have been saying this is the end for years now.

It is shrinking however - and that will continue for a while.

 

[T-prop]

Just curious if you guys over there still think that Mesa will be going under?

When Great Lakes goes under...

 

[climbhappy]

it takes a long time to kill an airline. creditors, lessors will bend over to get their asset generating cash.

yep, JO , we'll roll over the 400 million in 20 year notes and we'll give you 27 years to pay it. your payment drops to to 3.9 million a month. would you like a free pen?

 

[siucavflight]

well I guess Only time will tell!

 

[TAWS]

If any other regional was in a position to staff the flying they do for UAL/USAir, they would be history by the end of '08. The second lawsuit is coming in the new year, probably around about the time that the bill will come due for the first, unless they win an appeal. We all know that UAL has had it with their performance and I hear that USAir is none too happy either.

BTW, who is the MESA guy who walks around ORD with a pair of Oakleys around his neck (looking like the terminator) and the other one who wears a wool hat, scarf and pilot sweater (a capt) thru the C concourse? The second one is short and overweight.
Someone who knows these two should politely let them know that the first looks like a dork and the second looks like the biggest, unprofessional pile of sh!t that ever donned a pilot's uniform.

Want to get treated like an a$$hole ...... look like one!

 

[Capt10Matt]

One can only hope....buncha leeches

 

[BrickTop]

BTW, who is the MESA guy who walks around ORD with a pair of Oakleys around his neck (looking like the terminator) and the other one who wears a wool hat, scarf and pilot sweater (a capt) thru the C concourse? The second one is short and overweight.
Someone who knows these two should politely let them know that the first looks like a dork and the second looks like the biggest, unprofessional pile of sh!t that ever donned a pilot's uniform.

Want to get treated like an a$$hole ...... look like one!

I Couldnt have said it better. and have tried with many posts. Young Pilots today have no clue how to dress like professionals let alone at least act like ones. Sunglasses on your head or your neck is the outright insult to yourself and the general public. Trust us you look like arogant incompetent jacka$$es who cradle your pillows at night crying out, questioning why no woman finds your maverick montage sexy and swave.

 

[siucavflight]

I Couldnt have said it better. and have tried with many posts. Young Pilots today have no clue how to dress like professionals let alone at least act like ones. Sunglasses on your head or your neck is the outright insult to yourself and the general public. Trust us you look like arogant incompetent jacka$$es who cradle your pillows at night crying out, questioning why no woman finds your maverick montage sexy and swave.

I wish I was flying with you.

 

[CaptainChris77]

I wish I was flying with you.

Me too--he seems fun.

 

[regionaltard]

Just curious if you guys over there still think that Mesa will be going under?

My money's on the day after the last cockroach on earth dies.

 

[pdub20s]

Me too--he seems fun.

all three of you guys are tools! jk

 

[Erlanger]

BTW, who is the MESA guy who walks around ORD with a pair of Oakleys around his neck (looking like the terminator) and the other one who wears a wool hat, scarf and pilot sweater (a capt) thru the C concourse? The second one is short and overweight.
Someone who knows these two should politely let them know that the first looks like a dork and the second looks like the biggest, unprofessional pile of sh!t that ever donned a pilot's uniform.

Want to get treated like an a$$hole ...... look like one!

I saw a Mesa pilot last week in ORD walking through the airport with a pair of bunny boots on (it snowed that day) and his pants tucked into the boots. Boy, did he look like a tool!

 

[Missed Approach]

I think it will take 5-6 years for the MAG to go down.

They will lose their United CS for sure, but I think they will be able to keep US Air or Delta as long as they undercut everyone else by a good margin. They won't make any money on the deals, but their planes will be flying. Air Midwest will continue to shrink into nothing as their EAS routes expire and they eliminate the little at risk flying they do.

China will be such a fiasco ops will stop within two years, and the last frontier will be Go! expanding go to the mainland as they finally lose their US Air/Delta contracts to keep their fleet utilization high. Go! mainland will be the regional equivalent of Skybus, and have a similar results.

In 2013, major hiring will have picked back up after the age 65 stagnation. With captains leaving, FOs not coming onboard despite comm/multi mins, no money in the bank, no codeshares, unprofitable Go! flying, and no help from Uncle Sam, Mesa is done.

 

[J and E's Daddy]

it takes a long time to kill an airline. creditors, lessors will bend over to get their asset generating cash.

yep, JO , we'll roll over the 400 million in 20 year notes and we'll give you 27 years to pay it. your payment drops to to 3.9 million a month. would you like a free pen?

Kerry Skeen and Tom Moore killed ACA/IDE in less than 18 months.

 

[Soverytired]

If any other regional was in a position to staff the flying they do for UAL/USAir, they would be history by the end of '08. The second lawsuit is coming in the new year, probably around about the time that the bill will come due for the first, unless they win an appeal. We all know that UAL has had it with their performance and I hear that USAir is none too happy either.

BTW, who is the MESA guy who walks around ORD with a pair of Oakleys around his neck (looking like the terminator) and the other one who wears a wool hat, scarf and pilot sweater (a capt) thru the C concourse? The second one is short and overweight.
Someone who knows these two should politely let them know that the first looks like a dork and the second looks like the biggest, unprofessional pile of sh!t that ever donned a pilot's uniform.

Why don't you, you ball-less wonder?

And while you're at it, why don't you go find all the "short and fat" pilots at every major, every legacy, and every decent cargo outfit and tell them they look like an "unprofessional pilot of sh!t". Be sure and emphasize the "short" part. And make sure they get your name . . . I suggest you give them your business card.

I find lack of height to be totally unprofessional. Can little people even reach the pedals? Can "vertically challenged" pilots properly reach across the flight deck and b!itch slap their fo's? Do we really want people with "Napoleon syndrome" piloting aircraft?

I think the answer is obvious.

 

[siucavflight]

While on the topic, I find those with reddish hair to be unprofessional also.

 

[dash8driver]

While on the topic, I find those with reddish hair to be unprofessional also.

as are the guys that dont have hot sisters that put out.

 

[siucavflight]

Ha, yes those guys suck also.

 

[climbhappy]

quote: kerry skeen and tom moore took 18 months.

most bankers are unforgiving of stupidity. skeen's own investor group could not get over that he planned his worst case on 30/barrel oil.

 

[McNugent]

Why don't you, you ball-less wonder?

And while you're at it, why don't you go find all the "short and fat" pilots at every major, every legacy, and every decent cargo outfit and tell them they look like an "unprofessional pilot of sh!t". Be sure and emphasize the "short" part. And make sure they get your name . . . I suggest you give them your business card.

I find lack of height to be totally unprofessional. Can little people even reach the pedals? Can "vertically challenged" pilots properly reach across the flight deck and b!itch slap their fo's? Do we really want people with "Napoleon syndrome" piloting aircraft?

I think the answer is obvious.

What, are you like 5'2 or something? Little touchy about being vertically challenged aren't we! And I know you aren't fat. Just festively plump right?:cartman:

 

[TAWS]

Soverytired,

Why don't you take your plywood board and shove it. You're always on here defending MESA pilots (who will probably stoop even lower, should bankruptcy loom), while the rest of us try and look/act/be professional. I've seen some sloppy looking RAH pilots, but NEVER anything as sad as the MESA bunch! Atleast the GoJet guys look tidy when they turn up for work - half you guys look like you slept in your uniform, oh .... that's right, YOU DID!!

 

[OB-CPO]

I saw a Mesa pilot last week in ORD walking through the airport with a pair of bunny boots on (it snowed that day) and his pants tucked into the boots. Boy, did he look like a tool!

i call bull********************

 

[wscrj]

It would stand to reason that MESA is only able to attract the lowest common denominator these days. Look upon these "sightings" as a visual indicator that things are not well at MESA. Contrary to what many believe, they're are some really good people at MESA, as well as a lot of folks who were formerly MESA and now reside in greener pastures. With all of the information put forth by folks on FI, LAMA's and active MESA pilots, it's no wonder that many of the questionable people you see are wearing MESA uniforms. It brings to mind the old saying "you can't polish a turd" or something to that effect. I will say this. NO ONE is working harder to bring MESA to it's knees than the folks who ARE there, or WHERE there.

 

[go!ng for broke]

I will say this. NO ONE is working harder to bring MESA to it's knees than the folks who ARE there, or WHERE there.

It's like an electric power company "BROWN OUT". Some things still work but not very well!

 

[regionaltard]

When did bunny boots stop being OK to wear with my uniform?

 

[Z_Pilot]

The stock was up 23% late friday....perhaps a buyout/merger will be announced soon....

 

[79%N1]

Never.....they will be around undercutting everyone for their flying for years.

 

[pacific 77]

Hopefully soon, along with Go!, so Aloha won't have to.