When will ASA and Expressjet start pay negotiations?

[wms]

Yep! The new ALPA merger policy states that a JCBA must be complete before SLI.

Thanks, I stand corrected.

 

[superrav]

airlinepilotcentral.com has factual information.

 

[PUCK]

No, the SLI will hashed-out before the JCBA. (And there will be alot of press/rumors about it. But we will have a good idea what's going on). Then it will be sent to the respective MEC's for a Rep vote. If it passes then the JCBA will be negociated. And when it come to us for a vote (TA) the SLI will be part of it.

So the Alpa policy just states that you can not combine the list (SLI) under two seperate contracts. If the TA passes then the list will be merged as part of the new JCBA.

You guys ever notice nothing in Apla is strait-forward and/or easy.

Jerry Bartelson
CLE Ca

 

[CFI2766]

No, the SLI will hashed-out before the JCBA. (And there will be alot of press/rumors about it. But we will have a good idea what's going on). Then it will be sent to the respective MEC's for a Rep vote. If it passes then the JCBA will be negociated. And when it come to us for a vote (TA) the SLI will be part of it.

So the Alpa policy just states that you can not combine the list (SLI) under two seperate contracts. If the TA passes then the list will be merged as part of the new JCBA.

You guys ever notice nothing in Apla is strait-forward and/or easy.

Jerry Bartelson
CLE Ca

Siiiiiiiggh. Every airline has 10%....

 

[Whydoitry]

No, the SLI will hashed-out before the JCBA. (And there will be alot of press/rumors about it. But we will have a good idea what's going on). Then it will be sent to the respective MEC's for a Rep vote. If it passes then the JCBA will be negociated. And when it come to us for a vote (TA) the SLI will be part of it.

So the Alpa policy just states that you can not combine the list (SLI) under two seperate contracts. If the TA passes then the list will be merged as part of the new JCBA.

You guys ever notice nothing in Apla is strait-forward and/or easy.

Jerry Bartelson
CLE Ca

According to P2P there is no vote on SLI. Each group's merger committee will negotiate in their respective groups interest and should they come to an agreement a list will be created. If there is no agreement then it goes to binding arbitration. There is no MEC or pilot vote on the SLI. The list is imposed on both groups.

 

[Oakum_Boy]

They're gonna have to pay up. They've pretty much killed any goodwill on the AS side throughout the last year. I'm pretty sure the XJET guys will not stand for anything less. Thank goodness we didn't acquire GoJet otherwise they'd be handing money BACK to management.

If this whole scope thing comes down as the vocal minority says, then I'm gonna need a good payrate when/if I go back to the right seat of this turd.

 

[higney85]

No, the SLI will hashed-out before the JCBA. (And there will be alot of press/rumors about it. But we will have a good idea what's going on). Then it will be sent to the respective MEC's for a Rep vote. If it passes then the JCBA will be negociated. And when it come to us for a vote (TA) the SLI will be part of it.

So the Alpa policy just states that you can not combine the list (SLI) under two seperate contracts. If the TA passes then the list will be merged as part of the new JCBA.

You guys ever notice nothing in Apla is strait-forward and/or easy.

Jerry Bartelson
CLE Ca

If you want to actually get some factual info go onto the alpa.org site, admin manual, section 45- there you will find the actual merger policy that will be used due to the McCaskill-Bond amendment in 2008 which governs such mergers when two carriers of the same union are involved. ALPA Merger Policy will be used which will not allow an Sli before a JCBA. They CAN be done together, but only a JCBA can be implemented prior to a Joint Seniority List.