What's the latest w/ UPS?

[commuterpuke]

DD? Here's a hint ... there's a reason he's the FORMER hotel committee chairman ... I will refrain from disparaging another pilot on a public forum except to say the current hotel committee is running very smoothly and cohesively ... much as you would expect from a TEAM with a common goal! I have yet to hear ANYONE remark negatively regarding his departure from the committee.

Your information is emphatically INCORRECT according to the latest briefings from the negotiators. I suspect the former hotel committee chairman knew as much when he shared the conflicting information.

BBB

Yes, his intials were DD. He personally showed me copies of the T/A'd articles. They had the IPA logo and were stamped "T/A'd" on them. He said that the current EB was too confrontational with UPS and that the former EB would have already reached a T/A with UPS. In spite of all of the bickering, I hope to fly there soon. BTW, what are the chances of getting right seat in on the heavies? Do they put guys with just RJ time in a heavy or are they reserved for guys with heavy time already?

 

[Uppercrust]

Upon further reflection ... gee, no I don't.

BBB

Thanks!!!

 

[Big Beer Belly]

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BBB

 

[-9Capt]

Uppercrust and Commuterpuke are the same person.

Nothing but a flame throwing trouble maker.

 

[LittleLearBoy]

Hey Dog Rocket, you're still in the pool?

I found a bar at the other end. If you are looking for me I will be over there running up a tab I can never pay!!!!

Chow,
LLB

 

[Uppercrust]

Uppercrust and Commuterpuke are the same person.

Nothing but a flame throwing trouble maker.

Nope.

 

[ATR-DRIVR]

Yep!!

 

[BIGBROWNDC8]

BBB,
Hes Management trying to through you off with his "RJ / flying Heavys" question. Completely FOS...

commuterpuke and Uppercrust, Just so you, we are all VERY united around our EB and NC. We will wait for as long as it takes to get the contract we want. Send us a shitty contract and we will Vote NO!!! We are resolute and determined and regardless of what you think, we will eventually get a contract that is Industry Leading. Deal with it..

Now go back to ATL and tell those box heads to give up trying to run an airline like a trucking company and hire some real "Airline Professionals" to run this place like it should be and then we'll show you profits.

 

[Purpledog]

I'm surprised that with that impressive stack of cash you all don't build more sims. Hang in there fellas and good luck.

 

[Big Beer Belly]

I'm surprised that with that impressive stack of cash you all don't build more sims. Hang in there fellas and good luck.

The boxheads figure, "Arr boyz runnin' them Peterbuilts ain't be need'n no star warz trainin' and neither duz ar flyjockeys!"

This place is so horribly mismanaged that they honestly do make money in spite of themselves. Of course if I get my wish SDF will become awfully quiet for as long as it takes! Most of the managers were SCABS before coming to UPS so they'll feel like homecoming queens again. Oops, wait a sec ... those darn aircraft mechanics have pledged to honor our picket lines, so come to think of it, things will be real quiet in SDF! Wonder what that'll do to the stock price? LOL

Good luck in mempho!

BBB

 

[JohnnyCash]

me thinks not just lil ol looneyville but system wiiiiiide.

 

[Big Beer Belly]

BBB,
Hes Management trying to through you off with his "RJ / flying Heavys" question. Completely FOS...

You're probably right BBDC8. I'll refrain from responding again to the flamers (with anything serious that is!)

See you on the picket line!

BBB

 

[FreightNazi]

BBB,
Hes Management trying to through you off with his "RJ / flying Heavys" question. Completely FOS...

Acutally he's Doug Ward.

 

[Networ-King]

Don't know if it's only management or both management and IPA, but I know someone who starts on Jan 30th.

He will be in management.

RB

Well.....

That someone you know might be in a class by himself. Dunno, but this is what we're hearing for the next class. I hope Im wrong and your right. The more we hire the better .

{NEW HIRES}
UPS has scheduled a February new hire class. The next class is
February 14 with 3 757 Crewmembers. A New Hire Dinner will be held at the IPA Thursday, February 23 for this class. Last night, the IPA hosted a New
Hire Dinner for 7 new DC-8 and B 727 S/Os.

 

[Uppercrust]

You're probably right BBDC8. I'll refrain from responding again to the flamers (with anything serious that is!)

See you on the picket line!

BBB

Are they hiring replacements workers yet???? If they are, how much are they paying??

 

[Big Beer Belly]

Are they hiring replacements workers yet???? If they are, how much are they paying??

2 weeks into a 30-day cooling off period a WHOPPING 67% of UPS air shippers will divert ALL THEIR VOLUME (according to the latest Bear Stearns survey of UPS's largest shippers!)

Holey a$$-reaming Batman!! You do realize what this will do to your stock? LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You management clowns (glamorized secretaries) can barely keep the operation from IMPLODING on a daily basis, let alone run things when ALL the MECHANICS AND PILOTS are walking a picket line!!!! LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!


BBB

 

[Uppercrust]

2 weeks into a 30-day cooling off period a WHOPPING 67% of UPS air shippers will divert ALL THEIR VOLUME (according to the latest Bear Stearns survey of UPS's largest shippers!)

Holey a$$-reaming Batman!! You do realize what this will do to your stock? LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You management clowns (glamorized secretaries) can barely keep the operation from IMPLODING on a daily basis, let alone run things when ALL the MECHANICS AND PILOTS are walking a picket line!!!! LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!


BBB

I'm not mangagement. However, you need to improve your attitude little guy, if you think you're going to survive in this industry!!

 

[Big Beer Belly]

I'm not mangagement. However, you need to improve your attitude little guy, if you think you're going to survive in this industry!!

Since you're not management, let me clue you in about UPS management. They hire the rejects of the flying world, most are former SCABS, most are terrible pilots, and I've heard that many are routinely involved in aircraft "incidents" (running off the end/sides of runways, performing 180's on runways too narrow and in violation of the AOM, taxiing into things, etc...) Their day to day duties could easily be accomplished by $15,000/yr secretaries. One of them even said sorry to me when his request for an extra crew meal was denied by some supervisor. These guys are powerless (thankfully). They're definitely NOT the brightest and this is why UPS has so many of them (more than 10 times as many at UPS than any other airline). We're talking really incompetent.

They even tried to unionize a while back ... but you guessed it ... they dorked that all up due to more incompetence and some were fired and most had their pp's whacked hard. (No rocket scientists in this group for sure!)

I could go on and on. I've heard that UPS intends to get rid of them soon, at least that's the rumor going around. Probably reassign them to wash the trucks somewhere ... my guess is they'll find a way to dork that up like everything else they do.

Good luck in your career!

BBB

 

[BIGBROWNDC8]

Just so I can catch up

Nazi - Who is Doug Ward?

BBB - You know Im on your side, But I have to throw the flag regarding the naked guy in the street. Hes a nice guy and it sucks what the effects of being a UPS manager did to him.

BBB - Hey, dont forget about the Teamsters. The Pres of the Local here in SDF (Zuckermann) told me and 600 other UPS Pilots that they would honor our picket lines for as long as it takes to get our contract...

 

[Stifler's Mom]

I'm not mangagement. However, you need to improve your attitude little guy, if you think you're going to survive in this industry!!

I have to disagree with this statement. UPS is not like the passenger side of the airline industry. If I am correct in my info, UPS management during the last negotiations told the Union that they (UPS) were a cargo operation and thus didn't deserve United wages. Well, I would take this statement right back to the table and say, "you're right, we deserve more than that" especially with record profits.

Good luck.

 

[Dog Rocket]

Still here...

LLB,

Yep.. still splashing around...

What bar are you at? :beer:

DR