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I left Chautauqua to work at GoJets. Call me what you want, but any one of you would have done the same thing in my position. I wont be treated like a child, and Chautauqua was definately not the place for me.

Almost everyone at CHQ knows who you are, and how you behaved while you were here. You are not missed. GO-Jets fits you perfectly.
 
Keep trying to rehabilitate your image g0jet scumbags.....


It isn't working.


One more time You are alter ego pilots....

ALPA President to Trans States Management: We'll Cooperate, but We're Not Backing Down
ST LOUIS, MO - The head of the union that represents pilots at St. Louis-based Trans States Airlines today told pilots at a rally at Lambert Airport that the union is taking a carrot-and-stick approach to resolving labor issues at the airline.
"I have come here today to personally issue a public challenge to your management to alter the course that they have taken in dealing with their pilots," said Capt. Duane Woerth, president of the Air Line Pilots Association, International, in remarks prepared for the rally.
"I have come to challenge them to work cooperatively with our union to help build this airline for the future. And I have come to offer to help promote new business opportunities for this airline and new job opportunities for its ALPA pilots. I am convinced that, together, we can build Trans States into a strong, solid company for decades to come," Woerth said.
"I have also come here to draw public attention to the fact that, sadly, our efforts to discuss the issues before us in cooperation with the company have, to date, met with little to no success. Using only the most tenuous thread of justification, Trans States management has sought to create an alter-ego carrier that they intend to staff with pilots not sheltered by an ALPA-bargained contract," he said.
"In response to this tactic, we have been forced to file a grievance concerning this alter-ego carrier, because management has made it clear that GoJet exists solely to evade ALPA and the TSA-ALPA agreement. The clearest proof? Management's premature and illegal attempt to install a separate union before GoJet employs any pilots or begins operations. While management's public claim that a contractual restriction makes it impossible to extend the ALPA contract to larger jets, I assure you that we can readily overcome this very common obstacle," Woerth said.
"The management at Trans States has concluded that they have some strong opportunities for growth of their company-in new sectors, in new markets, on new routes, and flying for new carriers. I applaud that vision. I salute it. That being said, I insist that the Air Line Pilots Association and the pilots we represent play our legitimate role in tangibly contributing to that growth. There is absolutely no justifiable reason to create an alter-ego carrier or a carrier that is 'walled off' from our pilots, whose sacrifices and hard work have built this company. GoJet may indeed be a viable operation moving forward-but only with our pilots in those cockpits," he said.
"Unfortunately, time is running out, because the management team at TSA has decided to do more than just stop talking to our pilots and their representatives. They have made the unfortunate - and potentially devastating - decision to crack down on our union and our union representatives here in St. Louis and elsewhere," he said.
"Standing right here with me today are two good ALPA representatives-officers who put their necks on the line for their brothers and sisters-who have recently been unjustifiably fired by TSA. The Executive Council of our International union was so outraged by these maneuvers that it recently voted to make these fired pilots financially whole until they are rightfully returned to their cockpits. That's what being union is all about. I will not tolerate attacks on, or interference with, our union representatives-pilots or employees-simply because they are members or staff of this union," Woerth said.
"The climate here at Trans States Airlines does not need to be poisoned. We can start fresh today - if management accepts our offered hand and alters their course of action. If they make that change, we can build a better airline and a better environment for the future," he said.
 
they're still scabs and always will be

Scabs are anyone who crosses a picket line to work struck work.
If you want to blame some blame the 22 yr old kid sitting next to me on my last flight who was commuting to work thinking he was the sh*t because he works for GoJets flying a 70 seater with only 600 hours.
 
GoJet started their Jan class last week. When I walked by the classroom where they all are, I counted 15 or so...old guys to real young guys...:uzi:
 
I left Chautauqua to work at GoJets. Call me what you want, but any one of you would have done the same thing in my position. I wont be treated like a child, and Chautauqua was definately not the place for me.


Independance then to Chautaugua then to Goat. My god!
 
Independance then to Chautaugua then to Goat. My god!


This guy is notorious at CHQ for being the most annoying FO ever...he set a record for most captains who call in sick to avoid flyin with this FO. NO ONE would do it.

how poetic that hes at GOat-JET.
 
......knowing that the end result was putting themselves in front of someone else's upgrade. That is why there is such distaste for GJ.

Exactly the same reason there is such a distaste for raising retirement to 65.

(I know it's off the thread topic, I'm just hoping people might make the connection about self-serving behavior).

PS. GoJet Blows
 
Exactly the same reason there is such a distaste for raising retirement to 65.

(I know it's off the thread topic, I'm just hoping people might make the connection about self-serving behavior).

PS. GoJet Blows

Exactly the same reason there are so many people rallying behind the change to the age sixty rule. Upgrade to Captain, become senoir while people above you must retire and you benefit. Then when you are at the top of the senoirity list get the rule changed so you can stay at the top. I guess self-serving pilots are young and old alike.
 
Bottom line ....pilots from GJ ARE getting hired at Fed Ex, UPS, CAL, SWA, JB, VA....no one who works at those places cares about the 'kiddie table' issue that this is.....flame away and get upset, but its true.

MY favorite quote about this issue from earlier , I paraphrase : ---Its interesting to hear a regional pilot , who has their job at the expense of a mainline pilots job, complain about someone 'stealing' their job---

that about sums it up....have fun being upset about something that people ' that matter' dont give a rip about
 
Bottom line ....pilots from GJ ARE getting hired at Fed Ex, UPS, CAL, SWA, JB, VA....no one who works at those places cares about the 'kiddie table' issue that this is.....flame away and get upset, but its true.

MY favorite quote about this issue from earlier , I paraphrase : ---Its interesting to hear a regional pilot , who has their job at the expense of a mainline pilots job, complain about someone 'stealing' their job---

that about sums it up....have fun being upset about something that people ' that matter' dont give a rip about

The real bottom line is that even though they are getting hired by such wonderfull companies like SKYBUS or whomever, they are still scumbags.
 
that about sums it up....have fun being upset about something that people ' that matter' dont give a rip about
Who are people that matter? If you are talking about upper management at mainline, and UPS-FedEx, who do you think that those people are going to be in 10 years?
 
you seriously think 'upper managment' are the types that are pro-pilot / pro-labor? ....not flame.....just a question...The people there in 10 years will be the same types of people that are there now.....
 
Who are people that matter? If you are talking about upper management at mainline, and UPS-FedEx, who do you think that those people are going to be in 10 years?

If you are worried about the FDX guys caring about the GoJets thing, go talk to a few of them about it.. 5 minutes into your speil they will say... "Who is Trans States? Who is Gojets?"

Now, what would worry me, is that if you get to the interview 10 years from now and one of the guys doing the interviews is say, an old Trans States guy and you are a GoJets guy..

Buttt.. what if the guy doing the interview just happens to be a GoJets guy and you are a Trans States guy?

Back in the day, Valuejet (Air Tran) guys were looked at very similarly to the GoJets when the whole Eastern thing happened.. Air Tran guys still get picked up all over the place...

It's like a "localized tragedy" - Like, the tornado's in Florida this last week.. We heard about them, but they didn't affect us any, unless we lived there.. Sorta like the TSA/GoJets shenanigans...

Is it right? Eh, I wouldn't work for GoJets..
 
Bottom line ....pilots from GJ ARE getting hired at Fed Ex, UPS, CAL, SWA, JB, VA....no one who works at those places cares about the 'kiddie table' issue that this is.....flame away and get upset, but its true.

MY favorite quote about this issue from earlier , I paraphrase : ---Its interesting to hear a regional pilot , who has their job at the expense of a mainline pilots job, complain about someone 'stealing' their job---

that about sums it up....have fun being upset about something that people ' that matter' dont give a rip about

This is the second or third time I've seen this "kiddie table" phrase. Are you trying to make this into the hot new phrase of 2007? Kind of like "tipping point" in 2006?:rolleyes:
 

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