what would this trip pay?

[CptMurf]

At Mesaba, this trip would pay 17:29. 4 hour min day and block or better (to the minute) on a per leg basis.

The hourly rates may not be great, but the work rules are better than most regionals and some majors.

 

[CptMurf]

Comair and pre concessionary Air Wisconsin contract were some of the first for rigs at a regional. Solely from memory (which means it is probably bad info and may not be true now) their's are a look back average for the trip.

Something like...

4 day trip (Based on 4:20 per day/average per trip)
Day 1 5:15
Day 2 2:10
Day 3 3:20
Day 4 6:35
Total 17:20
Average Day 4:20 so no gain by the rig

XJ's 4 hour min day would be worth 2:30 more because it is not averaged by the trip.

 

[Magneto]

Why do you not get paid on the block time? For example, leg 2 is blocked at 1:47 but credits 1:25?

We get paid block or better. So if we actually fly
1:47 that is what we would get paid. The problem is they overblock everything. So, the actual block time would be closer to 1:25 and thus only pay
1:25.

 

[siucavflight]

Eagle would pay you block or better.

If you fly overblock you get paid what you fly. IF you fly underblock you get paid what the scheduled block time was. so if a trip is worth two hours and you fly 1.5 hours you would get paid 2 hours, if you fly 2.5 hours you would get paid 2.5 hours.

 

[Fishpaw]

Originally Posted By Magneto
...if we actually fly
1:47 that is what we would get paid. The problem is they overblock everything. So, the actual block time would be closer to 1:25 and thus only pay
1:25.

This isn't "block or better" pay. This is just straight flight time pay. Has it always been like this at Skywest?

 

[SkyNation]

SkyWest gets actual block or scheduled credit, whichever is higher.

example:

XYZ to ABC scheduled block is 2 hours. Sched. Credit is 1:50. Actual block is 1:45. Pay is 1:50.

ABC to XYZ scheduled block is 1:50. Sched credit is 1:45. Actual block is 1:55. Pay is 1:55.

 

[Fishpaw]

Originally Posted by SkyNation
SkyWest gets actual block or scheduled credit, whichever is higher.

example:

XYZ to ABC scheduled block is 2 hours. Sched. Credit is 1:50. Actual block is 1:45. Pay is 1:50.

ABC to XYZ scheduled block is 1:50. Sched credit is 1:45. Actual block is 1:55. Pay is 1:55.

Interesting. I've never heard of that type of pay system. So United/Delta/Midwest block their schedules based on history and Skywest assigns credit to the flight based on history? Why would there be a difference? Do other airlines do this?

 

[shamrock]

SkyWest gets actual block or scheduled credit, whichever is higher.

example:

XYZ to ABC scheduled block is 2 hours. Sched. Credit is 1:50. Actual block is 1:45. Pay is 1:50.

ABC to XYZ scheduled block is 1:50. Sched credit is 1:45. Actual block is 1:55. Pay is 1:55.

So in this case what would prevent the company from taking every 2 hour "scheduled block" leg and assigning a 1.5 hour "scheduled credit" to it? They would save money every time you do the leg even a minute under the scheduled block time because, knowing that you will likely never do the leg in less than 1.5 hours, you're essentially being paid for flight time only.

 

[BoilerUP]

Is there an electronic copy (.pdf or otherwise) of the Skywest policy manual/whatever its called floating around?

would love to have one for comparison's sake to go with the other airline contracts I have.

 

[wmuflyguy]

Comair still has all the duty rigs from the pre-concession era. It actually gave me an extra 5 hours last month.