What is up with not wearing full uniform?

[800Dog]

BTW, when I'm commuting offline I don't mind helping your customers who are paying your salaries. It doesn't matter if you are "on the clock" or not. These are the people who paid your company to fly on your airplanes! It's called basic human decency and caring for your fellow "man." If it was your mom, dad, sister, or kid, wouldn't you appreciate somebody helping them out if they were in need of some help? That's why I enjoy flying people instead of boxes. The people we hauled today were thrilled with their JetBlue experience as they exited the aircraft. There's a lot to be said for that kind of positive feedback.

And yet Jetblue still lost money. My Mom, Dad, Sister and Kid take care of themselves. Something we call personal responsibility. By the way, the boxes make a profit!!

 

[Bjammin]

After my first line check wth the asst chief pilot we took off our boards, ties, and wings and debriefed over a beer in the Hong Kong terminal. I thought it was great. If the public can even recognize us, which is pretty doubtful, then they would probably understand and accept that we are human too. It IS our off time and I don't think anyone would have a problem with that.

I like passengers and will always be there to help, answer questions, etc, but if I am off and want a drink I want to do it easily and without any harm done to the company. This process seems to work.

 

[Mach 80]

Always cracks me up when I see pilots eating in a restaraunt at least 5 miles from the nearest airport in all their garb ...as if they couldn't take off the epaulets, tie, and tacky metal wings before going in. It's usually a young pair of guys from a small airline. I also saw a guy in a Target store in full regalia. He looked very silly but I think he thought he looked pretty cool to all the bored housewives...but I think even they knew he was a dork.

 

[EMB Skillz]

Always cracks me up when I see pilots eating in a restaraunt at least 5 miles from the nearest airport in all their garb ...as if they couldn't take off the epaulets, tie, and tacky metal wings before going in. It's usually a young pair of guys from a small airline. I also saw a guy in a Target store in full regalia. He looked very silly but I think he thought he looked pretty cool to all the bored housewives...but I think even they knew he was a dork.

Funny, but the salaries are so low that pilots have to shop at Target. By the way, Target is owned by the French.

At least the French workers stand up for themselves.

 

[Purple Promisee]

If the public can even recognize us, which is pretty doubtful, then they would probably understand and accept that we are human too. It IS our off time and I don't think anyone would have a problem with that.

As much as your comment makes common sense, the day is not far off when Geraldo will expose, via hidden camera, the airlines "dark secr3et they don't want you to know about." Airline pilots "disguising" themselves by removing parts of their uniform and drinking alcohol ... in the very airport from which they fly, surrounded by inocent passengers! The media will jump on it, the public will jump on it, and management will jump on it. Do us all a favor: take off the tie, throw on a sweatshirt and take a cab to the strip club down the street.

 

[TexaSWA]

I can't help but snicker everytime I see "professionals" doing this.

Snicker? Only little girls snicker.

 

[Capi_Cafre']

I can't help but snicker everytime I see "professionals" doing this.

I can't help but snicker when I see some a$$clown crawl out of a learjet with a freakin' Captain's hat that he bought at Sporty's on.

 

[batsky2000]

Because it tarnishes the ENTIRE industry even more than it already is. Pilots have dropped to the level of servant in the public's eyes. This image is enhanced by a "professional" pilot looking like a slob. Either wear the full uniform and have some pride or ditch the whole thing.

Dude you are a dork and a moron for starting this thread, do you have a uniform cop that follows you to see if you are wearing your full uniform? It sounds like you work for CS? They have way too much time on their hands if they have the time to watch every pilot with a uniform cop. I also work for a Frac, and if you look at my aircraft that I have listed in my profile, you can figure out which frac I fly for, I also commute in my uniform, but I leave off the tie, I keep the epaulets on, and no tie or blazer, gets me through security faster and I can take more than 2 bags on board with no problem but the tie stays off, the other reason that I wear it is for the fact that after I get to my destination, there is always the chance that you might have to fly versus going to the hotel, if I already have my uniform on, I just have to slap on the tie and go, makes life much easier.

Get a life dude, there are way more important things to worry about than what pilots wear when they commute

 

[SoCentralRain]

*****

 

[SoCentralRain]

I also work for a Frac, and if you look at my aircraft that I have listed in my profile, you can figure out which frac I fly for, I also commute in my uniform, but I leave off the tie, I keep the epaulets on, and no tie or blazer, gets me through security faster and I can take more than 2 bags on board with no problem but the tie stays off, the other reason that I wear it is for the fact that after I get to my destination, there is always the chance that you might have to fly versus going to the hotel, if I already have my uniform on, I just have to slap on the tie and go, makes life much easier.

Why not just leave the tie on? Or don't your shirts fit? The top button of a uniform shirt is supposed to be buttoned--with the tie on. Remember how you looked in your navy blue suit for your NJI interview? I bet that top button was indeed just that--buttoned.

SCR

 

[treetopflyer]

Rob Coulter??

nope Ken Handjob

or maybe "sell my moms teeth for a quarter" Steve Satre

 

[FedExFlyer]

I generally drop my trousers and pull off my shirt ASAP and then curl up into a little ball in my boxer shorts and white T-shirt and black socks while sitting in first class. I also sometimes fart and scratch whereever it itches. I can usually get both seats to myself this way, even if there was another passenger next to me initially.

I use this tactic frequently also...............Another addition if you dont have your Ipod is a big a$$ set of orange earplugs that they supply in the AOC. When I sit down, I just plug them babies in and stare into space like a mute.

 

[kevdog]

First of all, I fly freight so PAX in terminals aren't paying my salary. Usually when I am commuting, I have been up for more than 24 hours and I am extremely tired, so no, i don't want to answer questions. My company has bought my ticket so I am a PAX. If you show your crew ID to the ticket counter and security it does the same as wearing your entire uniform. This tactic works all around the US and mostly everywhere else I've been in the world. What's the big deal?

 

[Ty Webb]

I'll give you a hint, Chief . . . . . . :beer:

Maybe you should relax, and have one yourself. . . . . . . !




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[Seat 0A]

When passengers are paying 200 bucks to fly coast to coast, they get what they pay for! Walmart employees never help me but, they make billions! Wise up. Point A to B safely is all they should expect sport.

Here, I will slow it down for you a little sport.

Clearly you are exempt from all of this since you fly boxes (and therefore have no obligation to uphold the standards for "the rest" of the industry) but here goes;

1. It doesn't matter what they are paying, they are customers and deserve the same treatment as any other customer. Do we only give a smile or a hello to someone above a certain $ threshold? What is it $500? $600?

2. If you are shopping at WalMart.... we will just leave that one alone.

3. "Point A to B" is NOT all they should expect. They also should receive your professional best as an airline representative.

Here's a few questions for you;
If you were a police officer, and were off duty in partial uniform, would you think it proper to not help someone who is in need or danger?
Would you not help them because you knew they paid less tax than another person?
Would you take off just your badge and tie and go have a brewski at a bar?

 

[Ty Webb]

Someone's got that "New Pilot" smell. . . . . .

Seems like the guys who care the most about "who is wearing what" are the guys with the smallest paychecks and the smallest . . . . . equipment. We have 'em at my airline, too, except they are the "hat police" . . . most of 'em don't seem to have much hair, wonder if there's a connection there?




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[CaptainMark]

1. It doesn't matter what they are paying, they are customers and deserve the same treatment as any other customer. Do we only give a smile or a hello to someone above a certain $ threshold? What is it $500? $600?

WHAT!!!! same treatment...so all those coach passengers get treated the same as first class???? i think not!

 

[Stifler's Mom]

I saw as a Non Rev on a Delta flight last month. An off-line guy (company name withheld to protect the guilty) on an ID-90 in partial uniform. Wearing the pants and blazer with no tie and shirt unbuttoned. He looked like a complete slob, and unfortunately most passengers probably assumed he was a Delta pilot.

 

[Seat 0A]

WHAT!!!! same treatment...so all those coach passengers get treated the same as first class???? i think not!

Nice try. Missing the forest for the trees. The general discussion related to the average pax and because some are paying only $200 they get to go from A to B and are entitled to nothing else. We all know your big bucks first class folks get "the best care in the air".

BTW, "treatment" costs nothing. I am sure that the free cheap wine in First costs the airline a ton, however. In the old days every passenger was made to feel special. Now all of the carriers are right up there with Greyhound.

Here's an analogy: When we (frax) fly the nanny or gardener of one of our multi-millionaires, they get the same better-than-first class treatment as the owner.

 

[joevollers]

Seat OA...
Our airline does in fact have a policy that requires us to be in full uniform, or in no uniform whatsoever...and I honor that policy.. All in all I generally agree with you in regards to how I choose to conduct myself... w/regards to uniform..

But that doesn't mean I don't think for one second that you are a massive tool for posting this thread. This is just more squabbling; and in fact it is an attack on your brethren.

 

[CaptainMark]

Seat OA...
Our airline does in fact have a policy that requires us to be in full uniform, or in no uniform whatsoever...and I honor that policy.. All in all I generally agree with you in regards to how I choose to conduct myself... w/regards to uniform..

But that doesn't mean I don't think for one second that you are a massive tool for posting this thread. This is just more squabbling; and in fact it is an attack on your brethren.

let's get to more important issues....how about that airbus rudder?

 

[Blucher]

"Here's a few questions for you;
If you were a police officer, and were off duty in partial uniform, would you think it proper to not help someone who is in need or danger?
Would you not help them because you knew they paid less tax than another person?
Would you take off just your badge and tie and go have a brewski at a bar?"

Seat 0A,

You don't know many cops, do you? I had a few beers with a San Francisco cop while he was in uniform and I believe he was on duty at the time. A very nice guy actually, and no I wasn't the only one drinking. I don't really have a point here, just a little story about drinking with an on-duty police officer. I would suggest the same to that cop as I would to any pilot (throw a sweatshirt over your work clothes), but in his case he'd probably get harrassed for wearing his side arm if he wasn't in uniform.

-Blucher

 

[joevollers]

let's get to more important issues....how about that airbus rudder?

The Bus has a rudder?

 

[CaptainMark]

Here's an analogy: When we (frax) fly the nanny or gardener of one of our multi-millionaires, they get the same better-than-first class treatment as the owner.

yeah ..you pick up their trash when they get off the plane in full uniform..tie and all

 

[Seat 0A]

Seat 0A,

You don't know many cops, do you?
-Blucher

Not that it matters but yes, my Father, one Uncle, and a cousin. Does that qualify?

 

[temcgrew]

I tear the sleaves off my uniform, much more comfy!! Jee wiz guys, have we come this far to criticize people on what they do on thier own time?

 

[Seat 0A]

yeah ..you pick up their trash when they get off the plane!

Jeez, talk about thread "bickering". Actually I tip the line guy to clean the cabin. And I am reimbursed for ALL tips. Another myth shot down.

 

[414Flyer]

Funny, but the salaries are so low that pilots have to shop at Target. By the way, Target is owned by the French.

No its not.

 

[Purple Promisee]

" I had a few beers with a San Francisco cop while he was in uniform"

-Blucher

Were you dressed as the construction worker, cowboy, or indian chief?

 

[temcgrew]

At least the French workers stand up for themselves.

The U.S. economy is much better than france, they are having major immigration problems and in 10 years have no middle class workers to do the work that the great french workers, who stand up for themselves, wont do. Great country, wish we could take style lessons from them, then we could all wear berets and be more interested in what each other wear.