What is up with not wearing full uniform?

[kevdog]

The U.S. economy is much better than france, they are having major immigration problems and in 10 years have no middle class workers to do the work that the great french workers, who stand up for themselves, wont do. Great country, wish we could take style lessons from them, then we could all wear berets and be more interested in what each other wear.

This has a lot to do with pilots not wearing their full uniform while commuting. You guys sound like french people who care what others wear.

 

[skiandsurf]

I do agree with the original question. First off, if you want to be paid like a professional, look and act like one. Second, by wearing just the shirt without epaulets, total dork look. Why not get the pocket protector to add to the nerd look. Third, I remember years ago (pre 9/11) a passenger asked a FA a question while in the terminal, the FAs response " sorry 'mam, but I am off the clock". You should have seen the passengers faces. Fourth, like someone else said, what if it was your 80 year old grandmother, or 16 year old kid. Not everyone is airport savy. Lastly, we all laugh at the SWA trailer trash passengers, is that the look you are going for. Maybe we should help set the standard.

As far as your analogy with cops.....disagree. We have all seen cops break the law (speed, run stop signs) only to give us tickets for the very same thing. They/we should be setting the example.

 

[Diesel]

yeah ..you pick up their trash when they get off the plane in full uniform..tie and all

if it can't be picked up by a dustbuster the plane goes into mx for a full detail. Most owners, pick up after themselves and just put the catering away in the trash. No big deal.

 

[stonewall]

I certainly hope the cops in my city don't drink on duty. That's a fireable offense in any city, and in no way makes this cop "cool," just like weaing no tie and taking off your epaulets makes you "cool" among the pilot crowd.

A cop drinking on duty should be fired. A pilot in half uniform just looks like a dork.

 

[atafan]

The U.S. economy is much better than france, they are having major immigration problems and in 10 years have no middle class workers to do the work that the great french workers, who stand up for themselves, wont do.

Don't worry the USA will be following right behind France because no one has the balls to solve OUR immigration problem either.

and by the way.

When I have jumpseaters ride on my aircraft I would rather them not wear their full uniform because I would want the passengers to know who the crew is and isn't. I try not to jumpseat with my monkey shirt showing but I completely understand when someone does.

Your off time is your off time, passengers couldn't care less only airline newbies still impressed with themselves do.

 

[kevdog]

I certainly hope the cops in my city don't drink on duty. That's a fireable offense in any city, and in no way makes this cop "cool," just like weaing no tie and taking off your epaulets makes you "cool" among the pilot crowd.

A pilot in half uniform just looks like a dork.

I agree, but I'll add a pilot in full uniform looks just as much like a dork.

 

[Blucher]

Were you dressed as the construction worker, cowboy, or indian chief?

Now that was funny!:laugh: You forgot the biker. Sadly I was dressed as an underpaid airline pilot, off duty and out of uniform. Speaking of those guys, did you catch on the Colbert Report that the "cop" of the Village People was arrested the other day? I think it was a drug charge, but don't remember for sure.

-Blucher

 

[Diesel]

Sat down the other day at my local bar in the city. It was st. Pattys.

Watched a man drink a shot of whisky ( i hate the stuff couldn't even touch it) then have a beer and eat his sandwich.

Then he put his hat back on and went out for patrol. Yup a cop.

Later that night there were hundreds of firefighters and cops drinking at all the bars around my apartment. These are cop and firefighter hangouts so seeing them drink in uniform is not out of the ordinary.

 

[capt_zman]

Hey Diesel,

Are you married to a FDX girl who use to work for a now defunct regional?
Z

 

[Blucher]

I certainly hope the cops in my city don't drink on duty. That's a fireable offense in any city, and in no way makes this cop "cool," just like weaing no tie and taking off your epaulets makes you "cool" among the pilot crowd.

A cop drinking on duty should be fired. A pilot in half uniform just looks like a dork.

Never said he was "cool," said he was a nice guy. Bottom line is we all need to take responsibility for ourselves. It ain't a perfect world and the only one you really have control over is yourself. And for the record, I agree on both counts. A cop braking the law, any law, should be punished appropriately, and a pilot in half uniform does indeed look like a dork.

-Blucher

 

[tracearabians]

I don't get it. Why is there so much worry about fr
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iggin uniforms ?

 

[treetopflyer]

I certainly hope the cops in my city don't drink on duty. That's a fireable offense in any city, and in no way makes this cop "cool," just like weaing no tie and taking off your epaulets makes you "cool" among the pilot crowd.

A cop drinking on duty should be fired. A pilot in half uniform just looks like a dork.

guess what? so do fighter pilots, but dont tell

 

[Patriot328]

Don't worry the USA will be following right behind France because no one has the balls to solve OUR immigration problem either.

If congress gives amnesty to the 12MILLION (that's a conservative estimate) illegal aliens in this country, that will essentially be adding a state that bigger than 44 of the states in the union......

Absolute INSULT to anyone waiting to come into this country legally.

 

[JTrain]

nope Ken Handjob

or maybe "sell my moms teeth for a quarter" Steve Satre

Lucky UPS pilots! They get the 'fun' of butting heads next with KH.

 

[CA1900]

By the way, Target is owned by the French.

Target is not, nor has it even been, owned by the French. It's an American company, headquartered in Minnesota since 1902.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/military/target.asp


Don't believe everything you read in a chain letter or hear on Fox News.

 

[BVT94]

Jeez, talk about thread "bickering". Actually I tip the line guy to clean the cabin. And I am reimbursed for ALL tips. Another myth shot down.

Heaven forbid you do it yourself! You might soil your uniform.

 

[32LT10]

I see an overwhelming number of "major" airline pilots in terminals walking around without their epaulets and ties on. Does this allow you to get away with not wearing a hat or something? (I fly fracs and we are required to wear the full uniform or else be in civies.)

They are probably wannabes like yourself that just dress like so you with little knowledge would think they are pilots. Most of the RJ guys have more stickers on their bags than knowledge in their heads. It is amazing to see an RJ guy with stickers for airplanes and places there is no chance he could have flown or been.

Now make sure you have the papers lined up and the catering is set up for Mr. Big in your beezjet.

 

[RUNWAYHOG]

Wal-mart is still giving certificates and type ratings to anyone! To be a professional or not to be, that is the question!

 

[Toobdrvr]

As a commuter, I prefer to j/s in civies for all the reasons stated above. However, sometimes I just got off work and I don't have time to change.
If this is the case, If I'm riding on my own airline, I'll usually stay in full uniform and behave like an additional crew member. If I'm on another airline, especially one whose policies, aircraft, etc I am not totally not familiar with, I will at least "strip" my uniform for two very important reasons:

1. If I accidentally walk by a passenger who could use a hand, I won't be mistaken for an inattentive crew member and possibly a source for complaint.

2. In case of some kind of emergency, I don't want passengers to look to me for guidance in case I am infamiliar. Certainly, I will help out if it's obvious what needs to be done, but I may not...

Another good reason to de-identify yourself is out of respect to the crew working the flight. It may seem obvious to other pilots, but very few passengers seem to recognize a "stripped" crew uniform...

Hope this helps.

 

[PurpleInMEM]

I go to great lengths NEVER to be seen in public wearing the sea captain's uniform. I don't want people's first impression to be based on what I do for a living. With very limited exception I don't disclose what I do or where I work.

Just my opinion but the whole concept, for pax or freight, is very silly. Why do we wear a costume to begin with? There are plenty of "professions" that have similar earnings and responsibility that never wear a uniform and they seem to get along quite nicely, with or without customer contact. The whole culture needs to change.

Maybe the Ultra LCC's can lead the way and decide that Captain Steubing uniforms are too expensive and go to khakis and golf shirts.