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WHAT IS HAPPENING AT NETJETS

realityman

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They should have called the program #Over65Pilots

You are all drinking the Kool-Aide at NJ if you think the VLOA was invited by your Union leadership. It is nothing more than a maneuver by the company so AJ can pull government funds. #TicToc

Yeah, right. And you know this how? Your "buddy" who heard it from a "steward" who actually hasn't done union work for years?

But here's a question: Who cares? As someone who works within the union I know it came from our union. However, what does it matter? It's a good deal for those who don't want to put themselves at increased exposure to the virus.

I guess it kinda of hurts to watch a decent labor-management relationship in action after you terminated yours. 10 days pay with the rest deferred to some unnamed later date? Sounds great!! And you get to drive how far now to go to work? Awesome!! The markets are way down, which makes it a great time to be putting money into them. How's that 401K match going over there right now?

If I were you, I wouldn't spend too much time worrying about what's going on at Netjets. Our respective companies will deal with it all as best they can. We'll be able to do a company-to-company analysis when it's all over.
 

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They should have called the program #Over65Pilots

You are all drinking the Kool-Aide at NJ if you think the VLOA was invited by your Union leadership. It is nothing more than a maneuver by the company so AJ can pull government funds. #TicToc

You like movies about gladiators. Don’t you....


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SAEflyer

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You guys are falling hook line and sinker for the Imback guy. Lol Hes obviously flaming everyone and probably getting a good kick out of the replies. Not an ounce of truth from him. Entertaining though.


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imacdog

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They should have called the program #Over65Pilots

You are all drinking the Kool-Aide at NJ if you think the VLOA was invited by your Union leadership. It is nothing more than a maneuver by the company so AJ can pull government funds. #TicToc
What kind of maneuver could you make a hashtag for to describe Flex pilots working 15 days for 10 days pay and not getting their 401K match?

#Suckers?
#DeathThroes?
#WorkingForFree?
#KennIsTakingCareOfUs?
 

MOMOMOJO

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Flying is down but it is not non existent. We just got notified all pilots will continued to be paid (at a reduced guarantee) however not all will be deployed. For those deployed there will be a deffered payment that will eventually mean they'll be made whole. Naturally, 401k and bonuses are suspended.

In these uncertain times I am truly grateful to have a job and I do appreciate the outside of the box thinking going on trying to avoid the nasty F word.

All that said, I think we could have achieved the same results on the bottom line, if not better, by simply temporarily suspending the Red Label Program. I thought the reason DRL pilots were paid more was because they worked more, sacrificed more. Well, that's not really true right now is it? Especially if the majority will be sitting at home doing nothing.

Additionally, suspending the DRL program would allow for significantly greater flexibility and job retentions in the long haul as the company recovers. I thought the one true benefit we were supposed to receive from voting the union out was flexibility? That it would equate to better overall job protections? It's time for us all to put our money where our mouth is. First suspend DRL and then, if only necessary, implement these other steps.

Unfortunately, the current steps are more likely to effect the youngest of our pilot group (regular line or FO's), the ones most likely to have tiny mouths to feed and will be the first furloughed if it comes to that. Sorry but missing my boat payment is just not as important to me as everyone keeping their job if possible.

I appreciate all that is being done, whether Netjets furloughs or not, but my two cents is I hope Kenn pulls the trigger on DRL so the likelihood of us ALL retaining our jobs is higher.
 

Hogprint

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Seems official if it is coming from the Stewards. Or maybe that is the goal to create false hope? Or maybe you don't know anything and choose to live under the AJ rock. If my buddy is so wrong, he also mentioned a fair number of senior management is no longer there? Any truth to that? #AbandonShip
Oh Dear Lord, where to start. I alluded people are scared and the TOPIC has been floated on our internal boards...from line pilots. SO, I’m sure if your friend asked a Steward, the Steward answered his question. There has been NO OFFICIAL communication to furlough. Again, your “buddy” is misinformed or he’s reading way too much into this As evidenced by your inference to senior leadership “bailing”.

Having said all this, we are in uncharted waters. We all may be on the street if this drags on through the summer and into autumn.
 

I'mBack

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What kind of maneuver could you make a hashtag for to describe Flex pilots working 15 days for 10 days pay and not getting their 401K match?

#Suckers?
#DeathThroes?
#WorkingForFree?
#KennIsTakingCareOfUs?

NetJets is #QuarterSized these days. I'm working 10 days per month getting paid for 15. Flying more than you guys. #TimesUp at NetJets. Again, how many of your friends are taking unpaid LOAs? #NJManagementBailing
 

Hogprint

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Tell us exactly what management has “bailed”, where did they go, and why. When you and your “buddy” can answer those questions then we’ll know you’re serious. You’ve proven so far to be desperately trying to prop yourself (or company) up.
 

realityman

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You guys are right, I got suckered by the troll.

#Flex401Klookinggood!
#LovemydrivetoworkatFlex
#KRwillpayme.....someday
 

Hogprint

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You guys are right, I got suckered by the troll.

#Flex401Klookinggood!
#LovemydrivetoworkatFlex
#KRwillpayme.....someday
No...let’s keep this idiot I’m back talking. This used to be a good forum. Maybe if a few of us get the ball rolling we can resurrect FI? Either way, we need a good piñata to whack!
 

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No...let’s keep this idiot I’m back talking. This used to be a good forum. Maybe if a few of us get the ball rolling we can resurrect FI? Either way, we need a good piñata to whack!

He is amusing.....


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NetJets is #QuarterSized these days. I'm working 10 days per month getting paid for 15. Flying more than you guys. #TimesUp at NetJets. Again, how many of your friends are taking unpaid LOAs? #NJManagementBailing
So you're getting paid time and a half while your coworkers are getting paid 2/3?
 

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Imback, in case you havent figured it out... NJA hasn’t furloughed a single person. How many more people need to tell you this? Also “your buddy” is probably imaginary and those are lies you helped make up in your head to spread. Might want to see a professional for that....cause I’m certain that’s supposed to end after childhood. Also probably should declare that on your next medical app, just to be safe.
 

I'mBack

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We all know where your business is heading. Soon to be known as #QuarterOfTheSize. My buddy asked the question to his internal contacts. He said senior management departed for FSI. Any truth to that?

I'm sorry the truth hurts your butts. Given straight answers to the Kool-Aid drinkers is never easy to take huh?
 

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I'mBack - while I don't necessarily agree with you on everything. In fact I think usually you're talking out of your a**, I have a friend at FSI who said that it is true- some pretty senior management folks left NJ for FSI. Anyone know for sure?
 

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I'mBack - while I don't necessarily agree with you on everything. In fact I think usually you're talking out of your a**, I have a friend at FSI who said that it is true- some pretty senior management folks left NJ for FSI. Anyone know for sure?

Netjets and Flight Safety are sister companies. We had some middle-management from the safety department and training department move across the street to Flight Safety a few months ago. It was well before this crisis started. We’ve also had Flight Safety people move over to Netjets. We trade employees quite frequently. It was actually announced in a joint communication with Flight Safety and Netjets.


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I'mBack - while I don't necessarily agree with you on everything. In fact I think usually you're talking out of your a**, I have a friend at FSI who said that it is true- some pretty senior management folks left NJ for FSI. Anyone know for sure?

So since they are both owned by BRK that would be similar to jumping ship from FlightOptions to jump ship to FlexJet? How many of you have done that? Have you jumped ship?


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Why would anyone pay any attention to a moron like this who has zero accuracy in his assertions? At least it has created some revival of FI. He probably knows the reality and instead drinks Ricci’s koolaid with their non contractual pay cuts, hoping life sucks at NJA as well. Truth? It appears Ricci doesn’t know the definition. Not a new revelation. Get a life clue bag.
 

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I'mBack - while I don't necessarily agree with you on everything. In fact I think usually you're talking out of your a**, I have a friend at FSI who said that it is true- some pretty senior management folks left NJ for FSI. Anyone know for sure?
Yeah, months ago. Way to stay current.
 
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