What Flex is offering FO furloughees

[luckydog]

Supposedly calling in order but, calling has stopped pending the Jan 28 conference call and staffing plan announcements.

Most FLOPs guys aren't interested because of the pay, moving to a base, or starting over at the bottom.

 

[doh]

Supposedly calling in order but, calling has stopped pending the Jan 28 conference call and staffing plan announcements.

Most FLOPs guys aren't interested because of the pay, moving to a base, or starting over at the bottom.

Kind of confused about the pay. Is Flexjet pay less than FLOPS pay? I have always been under the impression that our pay was higher than yours. Is that not the case? My source is APC, and I know they have some lag time and inaccuracies.

 

[V1 Rotate]

By my math, and correct me if I'm wrong, I think FO does 8/7's. That comes out to around 192 days per year. At their 7th year rate, that's around $307/day. Our 7th year pay is $402. Typically, we work 195-208 days per year.

 

[luckydog]

The pay I was referring to was the amount they make at their current jobs, not a comparison of FLOPs/Flex pay rates.

 

[Club ORD FO]

Supposedly calling in order but, calling has stopped pending the Jan 28 conference call and staffing plan announcements.

Most FLOPs guys aren't interested because of the pay, moving to a base, or starting over at the bottom.

staffing plan?

 

[luckydog]

Staffing non-plan?

 

[doh]

I get you now. And yes, if the jan 28/29 announcements mean recalls, keep your options open.

 

[Praetorian]

Kind of confused about the pay. Is Flexjet pay less than FLOPS pay? I have always been under the impression that our pay was higher than yours. Is that not the case? My source is APC, and I know they have some lag time and inaccuracies.

The Flt Opts furloughed guys I've talked to are upset at not being recalled. This is partly because if they were recalled their pay would be equal to the pay (based on years in service and seat position as outlined in the CBA) they left with. I think some of these guys were in year 8 or 9 when they were furloughed.

So yea Flight Options pay is lower then Flex but not 8 years less.

Guys have basically told me, "I'm not moving my family to a major city (to comply with Flex domicile policy) for sixty grand. Looks like Flex is not getting a lot of takers.

 

[SDCFI]

There's no harm in not coming over to Flex anyway. When they merge the companies they will be brought back at their current seniority level. Curious: the furloughed FO pilots that did come over did not have to resign their sen number. That should be interesting!

 

[Fresh Air]

I suppose I should clarify a bit: As far as I know, nobody has actually received a firm offer of employment from Flex. Some FO furloughees have been interviewed, for potential placement into a hiring pool. The 60K starting pay was what the interviewees were told to expect if hired, along with the standard Flexjet benefits package. I apologize if my initial post misled people into thinking that there had been actual offers.

 

[shanes123]

just Riccis smoke and mirror game..tricking all the dumb guys into thinking he cares about them

 

[DirtyBeech]

Pretty sure one has been hired.

 

[GooseHZ]

Other than making more money KR main goal is getting rid of the Union. That way he and his select team of mangers can run the company how they want to with fear and intimidation....and that folks should give you pause and make you think before you check yes or no. Or vote for Ed and his boys.....