What do you think of NWA so far?

[JAM-BRO]

Dood

You are talking out your rear end.

Originally Posted by Spectre [
Believe me, it is much better to be at a company with growth plans rather one which has an ever shrinking fleet. The A330s just replaced the retired DC-10s. The B-787s are not on the property yet. The DC-9s are past 30 years old and WILL be parked. Growth at NWA is at Pinnicle, Mesaba, and Compass, not mainline. The reason for the cold shoulder for new hires is probably because you won't be there long...

JB sold a/c recently to increase capital. It also significantly narrowed it's future growth. Are you suggesting pilots go to JB were there is NO growth. Kharma bro. You should be praying to the Don't-buy-my-airline Gods that your 100 Airbii don't get bought out on ya. Where are u gonna go? Pinnicle, Mesaba, or Compass.


Retirements at NWA are not happening as fast as you think. Research the seniority list. It has the birthdates of each pilot listed. Don't know where you got your 50% retirement numbers? You'll see a very different picture. You're gonna have to hope a lot of them can't get their medicals vs. retiring at age 60!

I am not the only one saying this. If you want to see the list, let me know.

I researched all of this before I turned in my seniority number at NWA. The reason for the need for new hires is because the overall low return rate of furloughed NWA pilots. Get the picture? Ever wonder why no one is going back?
Some did not come back, but a lot have. Your research is a bit screwy.

60% return rate. That's 350 pilots that are already on board. There are approx 200 that are doing tours in the military and took indefinite leaves. That leaves about 150 pilots, that like you, resigned. We ran out of furloughees. You don't hear them putting down the guys that took the recall.. What's wrong with your decision. Don't like it.

There are no unions at JetBlue and we'd like to keep it that way. We've been in business for 7 years now and no work group thinks we need one as our management is taking care of us just fine. Don't get me wrong, it's not hard to vote a union on the property. That just hasn't happened because we actually have a good relationship with management. No us vs. them here like at NWA.

Taking care of you???? I heard here(and only here because I don't care what happens at JB) that the raises at JB were not across the board. They were given to selected positions. That's BS.


There's no way 50% of the pilots at NWA are over 50! You have your numbers WRONG. I'd say 50% of your flight attendants are over 50!

DING DING DING. You got one right. Yeap, our FAs are 50% over 50.

I'd say very few pilots on furlough went back. Why do you think they are hiring off the street right now? That would not have been necessary if "a lot" of pilots returned. I'd say less that 20%.

Above

 

[727RedTails]

Jam-Bro,
First off, your retirement info is off at nwa. The average age at nwa is 53. What is it at JetBlue? Young, and the guys that are there will stay to 65. Not the case with many older nwa pilots with their pension intact.

I left JetBlue to come back to NWA. Granted, I enjoyed my time at JetBlue. The management is good there. However, if hired today at JetBlue what would you estimate to 320 Capt. A long a*s time. And lets face it, that is the only seat to be in at JB. I'm sure you are in the top 600 at JB and I am happy for you, however, if you were lower on the seniority list you may have a different perspective. Just look at the resignations from JB and you will see it's not the place to be if you want to be a CA (except the emb) would you do the 190 CA? Not me for less than a $100k, busting a*s at JFK.

Don't be suprised if a union appears at JB, there is a divided pilot group over there between the haves and have nots.

Again, all the best to you and my friends at JB.

 

[JAM-BRO]

Jam-Bro,
First off, your retirement info is off at nwa. The average age at nwa is 53. What is it at JetBlue? Young, and the guys that are there will stay to 65. Not the case with many older nwa pilots with their pension intact.

I left JetBlue to come back to NWA. Granted, I enjoyed my time at JetBlue. The management is good there. However, if hired today at JetBlue what would you estimate to 320 Capt. A long a*s time. And lets face it, that is the only seat to be in at JB. I'm sure you are in the top 600 at JB and I am happy for you, however, if you were lower on the seniority list you may have a different perspective. Just look at the resignations from JB and you will see it's not the place to be if you want to be a CA (except the emb) would you do the 190 CA? Not me for less than a $100k, busting a*s at JFK.

Don't be suprised if a union appears at JB, there is a divided pilot group over there between the haves and have nots.

Again, all the best to you and my friends at JB.

727 RedTail

I think your message was intended for Spectre, not Jam-Bro. I have been trying to tell Spectre the same thing. It seems that he is not happy....
Welcome back.

 

[holmie]

Yeah his name was Ray. As for the chicks in skirts serving coffee that was AWA in 99.

 

[DTW320]

There's no way 50% of the pilots at NWA are over 50!

Way.

Based on the most recent list (July 2007) there are 5299 pilots. As of today, 2765, or 52%, are 50 years old or older.

 

[NuGuy]

Way.

Based on the most recent list (July 2007) there are 5299 pilots. As of today, 2765, or 52%, are 50 years old or older.

Not that this matters or anything...

Nu

 

[DTW320]

Not that this matters or anything...

Nu

Oh....now the stuff on FI has to "matter"???

GMAFB