West Air and SKYW?

[Rogue5]

BTW, as to your original question as to SkyWest's involvement in the demise of WestAir, TIS and others there at the time have presented a detailed history of how there was none. That story is all about J.O. and MESA (a ALPA carrier), and not about SkyWest.

SkyWest, in its dealings with companies it has merged with or with groups it has taken on has provided growth and opportunity for those pilots, sometimes pulling them from the wreckage of a failed union carrier. Talk to any ex WestAir guys flying here now: You'll get a slightly different perspective from your own or the message ALPA presents of itself.

The great question regarding quality of life is not about a union, it is about the pilot group/management relationship, organised or not...

 

[ArcticFlier]

Now that I've wasted my time reading through all this SKYW bashing, I don't have time to verify this. Regarding the SkyWest/SunAire buyout, as of tomorrow (Earl Snow is retiring), isn't the number one guy on our seniority list an ex-SunAire guy? Someone inferred in a post that the SunAire guys were stapled to our list (I could be wrong, or just read it wrong). Not true. I've looked at that list and it looked to me like there was a seniority list merger, but I don't remember what it was based on.


Yo, PBR..........how's Odie? Nice pic (avatar)

AF

 

[SSDD]

ArticFlyer,


As I said in my previous post, the SunAire guys ended up with better relative seniority than the Skywest guys. I don't know how they arrived at it, but it was a hodgepodge, 1 for 1, then 2 for 1, then date of hire. I don't think many of the SKW guys were happy with it.

 

[Truckdriver]

You CLEARLY haven't been in this business long enough to understand that for every union protection you receive in your contract you give up something in negotiations for the next one. TIS

I've worked for an ALPA carrier now for 4 years so I am relativley new to the whole deal. My dad retires next year from an ALPA carrier and my grandfather retired from an ALPA carrier. I have not personally been through a full negotiation process yet but beleive me, I know what they are and how they effect families. I also have an uncle and two cousins who work for unionized carriers (One of which is a SCAB). You could learn more at a family reuinion with these guys than you will learn in a lifetime on these boards. If I ever dreamed of working at SKYW I would have been banished to the little kid table with my SCAB cousin at the family reuinion.

 

[ArcticFlier]

Truckdriver,


Just so I'm clear on this........you won't take any job unless it's labor group is organized? And, because we are non-union, we are equated with scabs in your family's book? If that's the case, note the comment that VP Cheney had for Senator Pat Leahy and apply that to you and your family.

SSDD,

My comments above weren't directed at you. Someone else implied that the SunAire guys were stapled. Just wanted to clear that up. I'll have to ask Tony H. how the lists were merged. He told me once, but I've only got three brain cells left. One is AWOL and the other two are on SAR trying to find it.

AF

 

[Truckdriver]

Arctic Flyer,


Never meant the SCAB thing to be implied to SKYW. There is no way I would ever include any pilot over there in that group unless they truly met the definition. Only those special people can have that designation. If it came across that way I apologize. Now if you fly someone's struck work??? Just kidding!!!! I've hijacked my own post too many times now so I won't even go there.

 

[ArcticFlier]

Righteo Truckdriver...............carry on.


AF

 

[Rogue5]

<exeunt>

Used as a stage direction to indicate that two or more performers leave the stage.

 

[embdrvr]

If I ever dreamed of working at SKYW I would have been banished to the little kid table with my SCAB cousin at the family reuinion.

Something tells me noone at SkyWest regrets your employment elsewhere.